From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39962: 27.0.90; Crash in Emacs 27.0.90 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 10:37:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83lfo372nn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <24162.58107.725366.668639@cochabamba.vanoostrum.org> <329e58b1-6255-311e-bdd8-b6f5b3d5208f@cs.ucla.edu> <22225b66-44f6-d132-3036-92181d53c28d@cs.ucla.edu> <89A83582-358F-43DC-B96E-04EE9D655D5F@vanoostrum.org> <63b88e2d-9888-f3ce-a4b0-fcf344e803e5@cs.ucla.edu> <83d09lbgk5.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2s48yn7.fsf@gnu.org> <83pndg8vde.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="46388"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 39962@debbugs.gnu.org, pieter-l@vanoostrum.org, pipcet@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 14 09:39:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jD2KD-000Bwp-Df for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 09:39:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42548 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jD2KC-0003Wx-DL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:39:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55439) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jD2J0-0001og-Qf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:38:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jD2Iz-00031N-RM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:38:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54608) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jD2Iz-00031D-Nw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:38:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jD2Iz-0001t1-Lc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:38:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 08:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39962 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 39962-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39962.15841750707232 (code B ref 39962); Sat, 14 Mar 2020 08:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 39962) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2020 08:37:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60581 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jD2Io-0001sZ-84 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:37:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40125) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jD2Ik-0001sJ-FM for 39962@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:37:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36054) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jD2Id-0002WN-SP; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:37:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2277 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jD2IW-0003zr-HF; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:37:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:38:29 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:177324 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: pipcet@gmail.com, 39962@debbugs.gnu.org, pieter-l@vanoostrum.org, > eggert@cs.ucla.edu > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:38:29 -0400 > > > I'm not aware of anyone working on that, no. But I also am not sure > > this is something we should do. First, it only works on GNU/Linux, > > while Pieter is on macOS AFAIU. > > The GNU system is our primary target; other systems are secondary. > Our motto is, "It runs best on GNU." > > Therefore if this feature in question would be good to install on > GNU/Linux, we should not hold back from that merely because non-GNU > systems won't be improved as well. > > I have not studied this technical issue. Eli's message suggests it > may have other problems, and perhaps it is not solid enough to be > desirable even on GNU/Linux. I don't have any opinion about that > question. If it wasn't clear, my point was that I didn't think this option is too good for GNU/Linux, either. One other evidence to that is that it isn't the default on those GNU/Linux targets where it works (which are only a subset of architectures GNU/Linux supports, btw, albeit an important subset).