From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35076: [26.1] delete-face [FEATURE REQUEST] Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:33:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83lfi8bjaa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20190402000403.rb3cb4b6tzqys4vy@E15-2016.optimum.net> <8336n0h3yp.fsf@gnu.org> <20200821033543.q7e7uk3fabtmt6lx@E15-2016.optimum.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1193"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 35076@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se To: Boruch Baum Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 21 08:34:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k90ct-0000CH-5C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 08:34:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37716 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k90cs-0001Qc-3s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 02:34:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42012) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k90ck-0001QF-MI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 02:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:33253) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k90ck-0000L8-Ch for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 02:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k90ck-0007ry-7r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 02:34:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 06:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 35076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35076.159799160030198 (code B ref 35076); Fri, 21 Aug 2020 06:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Aug 2020 06:33:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44799 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k90c3-0007qy-T0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 02:33:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59910) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k90bz-0007qi-2O for 35076@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 02:33:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55459) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k90bt-0000HJ-Bt; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 02:33:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4857 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k90bs-00080r-QK; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 02:33:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20200821033543.q7e7uk3fabtmt6lx@E15-2016.optimum.net> (message from Boruch Baum on Thu, 20 Aug 2020 23:35:43 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:185814 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 23:35:43 -0400 > From: Boruch Baum > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 35076@debbugs.gnu.org > > Suddenly Eli can't speak or act for himself? If within the GNU project > you're his manager or his superior, great then I see nothing wrong in > your intervention on his behalf. I just don't understand enough about > how the project is organized. From the limited e-mail traffic I receive, > it seems that Eli's task is mainly to remove bugs and deficiencies from > emacs by producing, and that your's is mainly to remove bugs and > deficiencies from emacs by just closing them. That is incorrect and unkind. Stefan does a very welcome job (as do others) of cleaning up forgotten bug reports which received no attention or whose discussion lapsed. I personally don't always have time to scan old bug reports and close them, after some initial communication about it. Stefan and others help by taking care of bug reports which I failed to handle correctly or timely. I'm infinitely thankful to them for doing this mundane job, and I think we all should be grateful. They make the project more successful and our bug DB cleaner. As it happens in this case, Stefan interpreted what I meant correctly, but in the few cases where he misunderstands, I can always speak up and explain the misunderstanding. And if that means a bug should be reopened, it takes just one email to do so. So if you have any objections to closing this bug report, please voice them, and we will reconsider if necessary. TIA