From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49193: Document require-final-newline vs. readonly files Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:07:31 +0300 Message-ID: <83lf6yscik.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87v964ehov.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <83pmwctq05.fsf@gnu.org> <87czsce68h.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <83lf6zu7qc.fsf@gnu.org> <871r8q29wd.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22024"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 49193@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 25 08:08:22 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lwf0n-0005Yd-Vo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 08:08:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33698 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lwf0m-00045Q-3m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:08:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46658) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lwf0V-000458-Uv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:08:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:33101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lwf0U-0007jy-Sy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwf0U-0007GJ-HM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 06:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49193 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 49193-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49193.162460126827894 (code B ref 49193); Fri, 25 Jun 2021 06:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49193) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2021 06:07:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44647 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwf0G-0007Fq-7q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:07:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48742) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwf0F-0007FY-1N for 49193@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:07:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lwf09-0007TG-N3; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:07:41 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3449 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lwf09-00053t-AE; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:07:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871r8q29wd.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Fri, 25 Jun 2021 00:08:34 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:208978 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 00:08:34 +0200 > > | If the value is ‘visit’, Emacs adds a newline at the end of any file > | that doesn’t have one, just after it visits the file... > > But that's not true, is it? The file is not touched. Is the newline > still added to the file's buffer? Or not even that (because the buffer > is read-only)? > > Would > > | [...] Emacs adds a newline at the end of any file's buffer that > | doesn’t have one, just after it visits the file... > > be clearer? Depends on the beholder, I guess. Many newbies don't understand the fine difference, and have trouble with the idea that Emacs doesn't generally manipulate files for editing.