From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37447: bug#29430: bug#37447: 26.3; Commands on and Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 17:27:30 +0200 Message-ID: <83lewzcqvx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r16s94oz.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <837d8ken0e.fsf@gnu.org> <83zglfdf3o.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39542"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, Emacs-Hacker2017@jovi.net, 37447@debbugs.gnu.org, 29430@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 24 16:33:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nXPSl-000A7Z-B7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 16:33:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41100 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXPSk-0003pB-Bo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:33:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46120) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXPSR-0003g6-DS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:55323) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXPSR-0003ag-49 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXPSR-0007Ou-1D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:33:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 15:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 37447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37447.164813592728362 (code B ref 37447); Thu, 24 Mar 2022 15:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2022 15:32:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXPRX-0007NI-6u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:32:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58172) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXPRS-0007M3-8I; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=58908 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXPRM-0003J1-0o; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:31:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=d1VB7X9/DHQNhg05sRZyPSrT6v4ZEhUUbqihKzBbA5k=; b=aMmBqR6UZGKI /34leGICjCJPKtmGsYJDmOQJChW/ioN/OCAhqqf4/8kaC0ivcfHvpAsvHKMrgYcMRbEIHuX1JRL/k Ehib+BG6bbOWiOS41frVmCnxno+PL58s/XnZCi1Rz0kbQwQ7gusZ70NAHbYSclksFk+nxfv8f6Fr0 ZPSlGWdSz0tkukpYxEi2oax0YPR3CepgyvrEA7znZ6DMXdiM7T48Ko2RDus697Tusa1uhKYROrJeZ TTBzzTjBkwSG6xUm3nq6Hw+Qi1EMmIUUZxqK1tFV4/kE2nBDRR+lpmPTr09ZyZ4zNFYC+uDVduUH5 wKdGI4zDp/f/uBmlE7ryVg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1318 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXPNB-00011E-Ny; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:27:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 24 Mar 2022 15:16:32 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:228879 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "larsi@gnus.org" , > "npostavs@users.sourceforge.net" > , > "Emacs-Hacker2017@jovi.net" > , > "37447@debbugs.gnu.org" <37447@debbugs.gnu.org>, > "29430@debbugs.gnu.org" <29430@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 15:16:32 +0000 > Accept-Language: en-US > > > > > > [C-M-delete] is problematic for MS Windows, no? > > > > > > > > Problematic in what sense? > > > > > > By default, at least, it's grabbed by Windows. > > > > But that hasn't changed just because Emacs now has a binding to that > > key, has it? IOW, whatever problems Windows users had or didn't have > > before the change, they still either have or don't have. > > Yes, of course. But without binding it by default > users are less likely to suffer the gotcha. How so? The probability of users using the key is independent of whether Emacs does or doesn't define a key binding for it. Besides, who are those Windows users that don't know about Ctrl-Alt-Del sequence, and are likely to use it without understanding what they will get?