From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19070: 25.0.50; Provide a user option that filters the buffer list for `switch-to-next-buffer' Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 21:14:17 +0300 Message-ID: <83lev6obye.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6ccbf136-5fc1-4b95-ab58-67ad51619fe8@default> <87r14z353v.fsf@gnus.org> <8335hepujl.fsf@gnu.org> <83y1z6of3j.fsf@gnu.org> <83pmkiodog.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22537"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 19070@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 12 20:39:30 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1npDij-0005j0-At for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 20:39:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52824 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npDii-0003Ik-BQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 14:39:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48598) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npDL4-0007hD-Ib for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 14:15:22 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48353) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npDL4-0004sP-9S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 14:15:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1npDL4-0006td-14 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 14:15:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 18:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19070 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 19070-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19070.165237926326435 (code B ref 19070); Thu, 12 May 2022 18:15:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19070) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2022 18:14:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42250 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1npDKR-0006sJ-2l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 14:14:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54726) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1npDKP-0006s6-H7 for 19070@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 14:14:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42102) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npDKK-0004Wy-3n; Thu, 12 May 2022 14:14:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=x772UekxiB5KF8MinoZuIHUXCK9naOrp+aFVDVBSvsQ=; b=e0akGptCwtld j6QGs762bhJA0cvZIk1EOGrmEXbVG4FlUz+Rq7O03wFx/ax9SuO9NijHmrSlV/56Jy18HNKeO6CkN x/qOjXIX3UwtEuCbm+EQby9W2mlIDnKdh2uaDYNrDGUs8lXq5eqgkXHXBxEggfBALuy00oN1DJ5fR dZEJTVPDiHzyClX4vTcTiWrXXfagu6Vt9igzupqMViqVGVq6YVy3FKoSgIcvVe1wJWGf2Y+KlHZoV J9qV+CayVBvSM6pgIenMUR9iGuSf7fhEw/1lA/55blg1K2SDWe6BUe5Zw2F8cmE/olPYN/XR8MAud IZ5j2pzJyVjEZYjOOpCHgQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4051 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npDKJ-0003Zr-JP; Thu, 12 May 2022 14:14:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 12 May 2022 17:50:13 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:232095 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "larsi@gnus.org" , > "19070@debbugs.gnu.org" > <19070@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 17:50:13 +0000 > > > The decision whether and how to fix a bug is a judgment call of the > > development team. > > No one said anything to the contrary. Common sense, > as well as politeness, calls for letting bug filers > know what was done and what was not done. Politeness is a two-way street. Your wiliness to look up the changes is your part of the politeness. > > We don't post all the details of the fix as part of > > the bug discussion, because it's a burden, and looking in the Git > > repository for the answer to that question is very easy. > > Link to it directly in the closing mail. Copy and > paste the URL - "very easy". No, not "very easy", because when we install the changes, we don't go through that URL, we do it by local Emacs commands that don't show the URL. The URL of the Git's Web access is something we don't use at all. > > Honesty has nothing to do with that; > > Honesty has to do with claiming that some "fix" was > "done" when it was not. That's what honesty has to > do with. So now anyone who disagrees with you about the proper fix of a bug is being dishonest? > > you are being unfair expecting the Emacs maintainers > > to do the job that you can do yourself, and easily so. > > Put a direct link to the result (code or doc) in the > close message. It's a burden. Once again, here's the URL for the Git Web access: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git Please bookmark it and use it whenever you need to know what was installed. > > > There's nothing odd or abnormal about expecting > > > specific info about how/whether a bug is "fixed". > > > > Not nowadays, not with the easy access we all have > > to the repository and to the actual fixes. > > Easy access for users is a link in the email. You have it above (as you had many times before).