From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59347: 29.0.50; `:family` face setting ignored Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:08:30 +0200 Message-ID: <83leo42vm9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bkp4bfqf.fsf@gnu.org> <83wn7s9txp.fsf@gnu.org> <83pmdk9pat.fsf@gnu.org> <83cz9j9zyu.fsf@gnu.org> <838rk77yfo.fsf@gnu.org> <834juu9aya.fsf@gnu.org> <7cc9e03786024fc72f3b@heytings.org> <83a64l65ai.fsf@gnu.org> <7cc9e0378678a092e6ee@heytings.org> <835yf962q4.fsf@gnu.org> <7cc9e03786754c9e0aaf@heytings.org> <83zgcl4jra.fsf@gnu.org> <7cc9e03786c281cffdd4@heytings.org> <83tu2t4ie9.fsf@gnu.org> <7cc9e03786e324ff82ef@heytings.org> <83bkp04gjl.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9053"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 59347@debbugs.gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 21 16:09:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ox8QC-00026i-3g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 16:09:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ox8Q4-0003UO-0F; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:09:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ox8Pw-0003ST-Nz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:09:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ox8Pu-0002Wy-27 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:09:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ox8Pt-0008Pq-N7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:09:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 15:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59347 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59347-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59347.166904331632304 (code B ref 59347); Mon, 21 Nov 2022 15:09:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59347) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2022 15:08:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48468 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ox8PU-0008Ov-9s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:08:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55834) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ox8PQ-0008Oe-IN for 59347@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:08:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ox8PF-0002NO-4u; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:08:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Dmgc5DmXdODlfq13Xvo8i4ISMRgmWw1z55F32jk+dGo=; b=h0LRTtVOZhDx 8zq84JDaKW79/SDJHHJB3mVBbVb4kE9aIVE7jNTaVYS7TM+kvlYWHqc2vq2QBzhHoRPozSnk/AdNR CjdaMN7FU6a2oG/SeK4U8XsKZa9p85IRDCOaLyGteD0YlFWlg8cQh1km/zfExWznkP1ONmS1fKaDb ARLMmXP3uxwvKgqqrnduJl+46ZTBVjeARp0N9gD/fKD0IGjlRoRAIvQNrXq8+VYfcGLn7ScNmofni 2BhhaL9xJ4Lp2p/x/Q5NjkuccDbJEuoNESwCnVk6lerc7dHbrm8NsgrE/bVW7lDFZXu5kFb15QyNv WWD5twR5Qjgb4K/q8DHE9Q==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ox8PE-0004H9-8Y; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:08:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Gregory Heytings on Mon, 21 Nov 2022 14:48:59 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:248543 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 14:48:59 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 59347@debbugs.gnu.org > > All in all, it seems to me that we should not change font_score now. OK, thanks. > > Btw, another conceptual issue I have with your patch is that it treats > > 'medium' and 'regular' asymmetrically (AFAIU): if we see 'medium', we > > also consider 'normal', but not vice versa. Why the asymmetry? why not > > always consider the other when we see the one? > > > > That's correct, indeed. The reason (which is perhaps not convincing > enough?) is that fonts with an explicit 'medium' variant are less common > than fonts with an explicit 'normal' variant. So if we're trying to find > a 'normal' font, the likelihood that a 'medium' font would be a better > match than a 'normal' font is low. I understand, but are there any downsides to making it symmetrical? My only other comment is that perhaps the consideration of 'regular' when 'medium' was required (or vice versa) should be controlled by a variable that people could tweak from Lisp. This would help us if this change causes, or is suspected to cause, some regression in some case.