From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64902: 30.0.50; REQUIRE-MATCH completing-read arg in describe-* commands Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 11:28:18 +0300 Message-ID: <83leesy1gd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874jlp8kt2.fsf@posteo.net> <83ila5l2az.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzukmvub.fsf@posteo.net> <873518xaoz.fsf@posteo.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="623"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 64902-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Thierry Volpiatto Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 03 10:29:49 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qRTiO-000AYC-Nb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 10:29:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRThg-0007B9-H3; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 04:29:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRThe-00072M-KU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 04:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRThe-0007tX-CS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 04:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qRThe-0002Ms-8E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 04:29:02 -0400 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 08:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 64902 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Mail-Followup-To: 64902@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, thievol@posteo.net Original-Received: via spool by 64902-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D64902.16910512979009 (code D ref 64902); Thu, 03 Aug 2023 08:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64902-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Aug 2023 08:28:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50778 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qRTgv-0002LF-5S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 04:28:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38744) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qRTgt-0002L3-Bk for 64902-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 04:28:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRTgn-0007mf-RE; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 04:28:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=vna7OHtn/FDwd4oy65U7jCR2E/rqkgJTd+7vja4ycas=; b=l2118wx9/Q/i nbHkahPjXJ+irtdGRWrm1qlr8zglESp5ToGgwW6J48qhSSrWPZM2kxJB2qKZbOEGNDxGlN5Fs8uRq Ug5if3SMr7iT9Pk0QIUxzDr/GW2UPa9Iw2MhDNyTFBazpRe1eX3pgangzEZtjqy4jwDXcpoj2p5T4 B8TWJpPz3BFrl59THT/EU3TmXtMdz0yfc9wyRWoDedUNsG5WivX2P2dq4M32LInQRTlSqbxr4MV7R yJN/AHjr5iEhGy0rAVtkEFKgjYOjiuaq++hN85jRdSiALOFIBjZrayv1Ou0B0udgxEwZUNb5b079B qhQphjJ56QQIFNpamzNmBg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRTgn-0007sV-9b; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 04:28:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: <873518xaoz.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Thierry Volpiatto on Fri, 28 Jul 2023 16:16:42 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:266564 Archived-At: > From: Thierry Volpiatto > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 64902@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 16:16:42 +0000 > > Stefan Monnier writes: > > >>> I suspect it might have been when a function is advised but not yet defined. > >> Hmm, how could this happen? > > > > It happens all the time: just call `advice-add` before the function is defined. > > I hardly see how one would do this, sorry. > > >> The problem is that with Helm completion I have an extra unknown > >> symbol on top of list when I start typing (this is expected when > >> require-match is non-nil), > > > > Could you characterize this "unknown symbol" a bit more? I'm having > > trouble guessing why/how/where `confirm` would have such an effect. > > In Helm, if require-match is 'confirm, when you write in minibuffer something > that doesn't match one of the candidates this string is appended on top > of list and is prefixed (with display prop) with [?]. By contrast when > require-match is nil nothing is appended on top of list and pressing RET > doesn't exit minibuffer (helm-buffer is empty in such case). > IOW the behavior of require-match is the same than with vanilla Emacs. > > > Maybe we can fix that without preventing the use of "not quite > > defined" functions. > > Sorry, as said above I don't understand what you want to achieve here. I've now added a comment to that particular call to completing-read, and I'm therefore closing this bug.