From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 20:03:27 +0200 Message-ID: <83k3em1aj4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> <52C0E734.4090403@cs.ucla.edu> <83sita1cbw.fsf@gnu.org> <1ea6ef32-1169-4ba1-af15-8b9f8e58cf00@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388426715 15847 80.91.229.3 (30 Dec 2013 18:05:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, grfz@gmx.de, 16292@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 30 19:05:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VxhDK-0005L3-Ih for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:05:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59288 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxhDK-0005mp-11 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:05:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44788) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxhDE-0005mU-C5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:05:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxhD5-00061i-6n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:05:12 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38935) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxhD5-000610-2g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:05:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VxhD4-0003ZN-Ho for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:05:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16292 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16292-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16292.138842668513685 (code B ref 16292); Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16292) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2013 18:04:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52953 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VxhCl-0003Yc-SV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:04:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:55879) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VxhCj-0003YQ-VU for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:04:42 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYM00M00SKZ5W00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 20:03:37 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYM00LQ4SU0YK90@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 20:03:37 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <1ea6ef32-1169-4ba1-af15-8b9f8e58cf00@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82754 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 09:33:47 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: grfz@gmx.de, 16292@debbugs.gnu.org > > I don't understand exactly what Paul did to change (for Emacs) the > first ' in '...' to SINGLE TURNED COMMA QUOTATION MARK Paul added "@documentencoding utf-8" to sources of all the Info manuals; the rest was done by makeinfo when it produced the Info files. > but if he could do that, couldn't a similar approach be used to > change that first ' back to `, restoring things for Emacs users as > they were before (removing this regression)? Not by a similar approach, but we could indeed restore old behavior by customizing makeinfo (the details are in the Texinfo manual, and were quoted here by the OP). But we need to agree to that first, and I very much doubt that such an agreement will be reached, given the GNU Coding Standards and the general mindset.