From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21746: 24.5; purpose of dired-keep-marker-copy? Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:26:23 +0300 Message-ID: <83k2qcygzk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <36360.86247.586145.22058@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <69182d70-1f68-4105-9f24-7bbef43e7ecb@default> <40607.80402.459249.22058@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <987d58d9-30d3-4067-a0ae-7a7722a3f2fb@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445664447 10300 80.91.229.3 (24 Oct 2015 05:27:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 05:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: winkler@gnu.org, 21746@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 24 07:27:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZprMD-0008DQ-Rl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 07:27:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42728 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZprMC-0000iX-SM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:27:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40566) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZprM9-0000iF-8n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:27:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZprM6-0000hy-2g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:27:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:44617) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZprM5-0000hu-VO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:27:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZprM5-0002RP-NF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:27:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 05:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21746 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21746-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21746.14456643809332 (code B ref 21746); Sat, 24 Oct 2015 05:27:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21746) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2015 05:26:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35325 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZprLQ-0002QR-9C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:26:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:33564) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZprLO-0002QJ-KE for 21746@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:26:19 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NWP00K00KWFV500@mtaout24.012.net.il> for 21746@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:19:41 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NWP00L0ILGTZY10@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:19:41 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <987d58d9-30d3-4067-a0ae-7a7722a3f2fb@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:107956 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 14:57:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 21746@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Thank you, indeed I was missing this piece of info. I am just > > wondering: how often are you using this? Is this a feature which > > should be exposed to all emacs beginners? If yes, it needs to be > > documented better. > > There is a lot in Dired that I think should be exposed/documented > better/more. By default we don't even load dired-x.el or > dired-aux.el, and they provide lots of stuff useful even for > beginners, including lots of menus. > > I would be in favor of our loading both of these Dired libraries > by default. There is lots in Dired that users can benefit from, > but they are typically unaware of it. Aren't the commands and options there autoloaded? If not, we could autoload them, which would solve the visibility problem without bloating the minimal memory footprint too much. Patches welcome.