From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18083: 24.4.50; (emacs) Arguments and (elisp) Prefix Command Arguments Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 20:25:58 +0300 Message-ID: <83k2jfnh3t.fsf@gnu.org> References: << <87oa8sm596.fsf@gnus.org>>> <<<75d42f7e-707b-44e9-90b1-9b5d04207961@default>>> <<<83oa8rvex3.fsf@gnu.org>>> <> <<83y47vnlse.fsf@gnu.org>> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462037266 23205 80.91.229.3 (30 Apr 2016 17:27:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18083@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 30 19:27:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awYfy-0001j6-7H for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:27:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59097 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYft-0000rE-U0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:27:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57244) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYfk-0000cx-W1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:27:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYfZ-0001Po-E4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:27:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45900) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYfZ-0001P0-Ad for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:27:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYfV-0003R2-TH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:27:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18083 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18083-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18083.146203718213155 (code B ref 18083); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:27:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18083) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 17:26:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58237 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYes-0003Q7-0T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:26:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYeq-0003Pr-R9 for 18083@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:26:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYec-00017f-At for 18083@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:26:12 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYec-00016g-7a; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:26:06 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1937 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1awYeW-0008Ds-3m; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:26:00 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Sat, 30 Apr 2016 09:12:01 -0800 (GMT-08:00)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117397 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 09:12:01 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18083@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > This should not be about choosing to document only this one > > > or only that one. > > > > Of course, it is. > > Why? Why should we not document both? Asked and answered already. > > > And it should not be based on what you tend to use or I tend to use. > > > > Then how come you raise this, based on your experience? > > I am not, like you, claiming that my experience or preference > should be the only thing documented. I'm for a big tent, > documenting what you prefer (M-) and what I prefer sometimes > (C-). Not because you or I prefer this or that, but because > Emacs lets you use either one, and each is useful. They are all documented in the doc string of digit-argument. > > > It costs little to mention that C- also can be used, like M-. > > > > It's bloat we need to justify. > > I've justified it. And it's not bloat, but useful info for > users. We disagree about the balance.