From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19889: bug#22207: emacs-25 mishandles info code text on Fedora 23 Date: Fri, 06 May 2016 20:15:54 +0300 Message-ID: <83k2j7f6ph.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56744F95.20307@cs.ucla.edu> <951925e4-e3ed-0367-721a-7241546f4013@cs.ucla.edu> <3u37pwfb2n.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <838tznhe9v.fsf@gnu.org> <4afutvkx1t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83lh3nfaaq.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462555062 10850 80.91.229.3 (6 May 2016 17:17:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 17:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19889@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 06 19:17:32 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ayjNa-000862-Tt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 19:17:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59409 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ayjNX-0003gZ-0f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 13:17:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ayjNN-0003Uq-DE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 13:17:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ayjNB-0003tW-Hl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 13:17:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57882) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ayjNB-0003s1-EI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 13:17:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ayjN8-0007a9-16 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 13:17:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 06 May 2016 17:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19889.146255497629085 (code B ref 19889); Fri, 06 May 2016 17:17:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2016 17:16:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41986 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ayjMN-0007Z3-VT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 13:16:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60188) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ayjMM-0007Yl-D3 for 19889@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 13:16:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ayjM7-0003Sm-NK for 19889@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 13:16:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48257) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ayjLv-0003LJ-JM; Fri, 06 May 2016 13:15:47 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3029 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ayjLp-0000nE-0h; Fri, 06 May 2016 13:15:41 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Paul Eggert on Fri, 6 May 2016 09:24:11 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117918 Archived-At: > Cc: 19889@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 09:24:11 -0700 > > Here is my reaction to Glenn’s attachment to > . Some users are reaaaaally annoyed by > aliased (“jagged”) fonts, particularly when combined with text that is > mostly anti-aliased. The annoyance level can depend on the display > technology: due to subpixel rendering, for example, what you see when > you look at Glenn’s attachment on your display may differ from what > Glenn sees on his display. > > Other users aren’t bothered at all. I guess I belong to the latter group. I see the difference, but I'm not bothered by it. What matters is that the font should be monospaced; beyond that, we have very little to expect. > Plus, there’s another problem with Emacs’s current approach: on my > Fedora 23 platform, the jagged font lacks serifs, which defeats the main > point of specifying Courier for quoted Info text. AFAIU, the main point of specifying that face was to have a face different from default that is still monospaced. And both fonts satisfy that condition, so I don't see any further problems we should care about.