From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Toby Cubitt <tsc25@cantab.net>
Cc: 24640@debbugs.gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, rrt@sc3d.org
Subject: bug#24640: Crashes in 25.1
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:28:47 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83k2dda33k.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161012165656.GA19297@marvin.cs.ucl.ac.uk> (message from Toby Cubitt on Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:56:56 +0100)
> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:56:56 +0100
> Cc: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, rrt@sc3d.org, 24640@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Toby Cubitt <tsc25@cantab.net>
>
> > Does restoring undo-tree history manipulates buffer-undo-list of any
> > buffers in any way?
>
> No. It just reads a lisp structure from file into the buffer-undo-tree
> variable.
In that case, changes in Emacs undo internals are probably off the
hook. Hmm... which leaves us with what other suspects?
> > > Since the timer can't run whilst undo-tree lisp code is running
> >
> > It can run if during restoring the history, undo-tree calls sit-for, or
> > asks a question, or calls some other API that enters redisplay and/or
> > involves user input.
>
> During history loading it doesn't access buffer-undo-list at all, so it
> shouldn't matter if the timer runs.
>
> When undoing, everything that accesses or touches buffer-undo-list is
> encapsulated in the three functions I listed. None of these call sit-for,
> prompt for input, or display anything. As far as I understand it, they
> shouldn't be able to trigger redisplay at all (caveat I'm no redisplay
> expert - that's you!)
Well, one place where redisplay could be triggered is those messages
about failure to load history, like this one (which actually happens
during restoring Emacs sessions from Reuben's desktop file):
Error reading undo-tree history from "/home/user/.emacs.d/undo-tree/.!home!user!Foo!Bar!baz!doc!yyy.tex.~undo-tree~"
(I obfuscated a few directory names here to protect Reuben's privacy.)
Each such message enters redisplay.
But again, the undo timer is not the culprit, so this is just for
completeness.
> I don't think the undo timer can trigger elsewhere during undo-tree
> undo. Even if it does somehow trigger outside those three functions, this
> shouldn't break anything. Depending on when it triggers, undo-tree will
> either pick up the extra undo boundary added to buffer-undo-list this
> time around, or next time you undo.
I originally asked that question because Reuben's setup arranges for
restoring the session lazily, which means buffers are restored from
their files by functions that run off the idle timer. So I thought
about two timers stepping on each other's toes. Again, that proved to
be a dead end, at least for now.
> Indeed. But even if it's not to blame here, I still ought double-check
> the above carefully to make sure the new undo timer doesn't interact with
> undo-tree in some subtle way I've overlooked.
That's prudent, of course.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-12 17:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-07 23:12 bug#24640: Crashes in 25.1 Reuben Thomas
2016-10-08 5:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-08 13:28 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-08 13:30 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-08 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-08 15:26 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-08 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-08 22:08 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-09 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-09 7:45 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-09 9:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-09 20:21 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-10 6:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-10 16:12 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-10 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-10 17:01 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-10 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-10 17:06 ` Reuben Thomas
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2016-10-11 11:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 14:08 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-11 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 15:42 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-11 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 15:41 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-11 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 16:41 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-12 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 10:57 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-12 11:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 13:50 ` Toby Cubitt
2016-10-12 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 16:56 ` Toby Cubitt
2016-10-12 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-10-12 18:07 ` Toby Cubitt
2016-10-12 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 20:45 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-10-14 20:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
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