From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23425: master branch: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly quote. Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 10:08:40 +0300 Message-ID: <83k24k7213.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170603205331.GA2130@acm.fritz.box> <20170605162737.GA30946@acm.fritz.box> <20170605203753.GB30946@acm.fritz.box> <20170607191344.GB2430@acm.fritz.box> <20170608173400.GA2662@acm.fritz.box> <20170609194141.GA3410@acm.fritz.box> <2f1sqsucm4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1497078616 3904 195.159.176.226 (10 Jun 2017 07:10:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 07:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 23425@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris , John Wiegley Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 10 09:10:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dJaXC-0000bY-Le for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 09:10:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57484 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJaXG-00042A-Cr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:10:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46595) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJaX7-00041z-R9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:10:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJaX4-0005Bl-Ic for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:10:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:35044) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJaX4-0005Bh-Ej for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dJaX4-0008Qy-90 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:10:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 07:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23425 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23425-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23425.149707855332363 (code B ref 23425); Sat, 10 Jun 2017 07:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23425) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2017 07:09:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37721 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dJaWG-0008Pv-QM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:09:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55541) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dJaWF-0008Ph-KA for 23425@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:09:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJaW9-00057Y-Fo for 23425@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:09:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42428) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJaW2-00056E-FC; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:08:58 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4094 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dJaW1-0005AN-0l; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:08:57 -0400 In-reply-to: <2f1sqsucm4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Glenn Morris on Fri, 09 Jun 2017 16:31:31 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:133429 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 16:31:31 -0400 > Cc: Paul Eggert , 23425@debbugs.gnu.org > > Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > I think the topic has been pretty thoroughly discussed. Are there any > > objections remaining to me implementing this change and committing it to > > master? > > I object. This is a contentious issue, and I would like the maintainers > to make an explicit decision before you change anything. As far as things concern me, there will be no significant changes in these facilities for at least some time, unless there's an overwhelming agreement for such changes (which this thread and previous ones doesn't seem to show). We've rocked this boat enough; IMO we should now leave it where it is for some time and let users get used to it and bring us some feedback, before we embark on further adventures. John?