From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27919: 25.2.50; dired + eshell-ls: fallback to external ls fails Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:04:39 +0300 Message-ID: <83k22jyiko.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lgn2vu3g.fsf@calancha-pc> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501826776 26287 195.159.176.226 (4 Aug 2017 06:06:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 06:06:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: calancha@gmail.com, 27919@debbugs.gnu.org, tino.calancha@gmail.com To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 04 08:06:10 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVkQ-0006HI-7V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 08:06:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37492 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVkS-00064q-Rg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:06:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32816) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVkL-00064V-Av for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVkI-0005XN-Ku for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:06:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:38026) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVkI-0005Wv-Hz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVkI-0005Iw-8V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:06:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 06:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27919 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 27919-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27919.150182670520326 (code B ref 27919); Fri, 04 Aug 2017 06:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 27919) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2017 06:05:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40703 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVjN-0005Hm-DH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:05:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40377) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVjM-0005HG-7Y for 27919@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:05:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVjG-0003qD-8l for 27919@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:04:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36495) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVjA-0003hM-Pf; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:04:52 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4199 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVj8-0002d7-VN; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:04:51 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from John Wiegley on Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:46:14 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:135317 Archived-At: > From: John Wiegley > Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:46:14 -0700 > Cc: Tino Calancha , 27919@debbugs.gnu.org, > Tino Calancha > > If anything, why not get rid of ls-lisp? Because (a) it's much smaller than Eshell, so better suited for something that's preloaded; and (b) it supports quite a few options that Eshell doesn't, AFAIK, and which Windows users might expect to be available, as they are available in "other file-system browsers". I actually think that getting rid of any of these two is not a good idea, but that's me.