From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30405: 26.0.91; Incorrect apostrophe translation in ImageMagick error message Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:58:30 +0200 Message-ID: <83k1vgy849.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874lmpzx1t.fsf@runbox.com> <87po5dczl1.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83tvup2q7u.fsf@gnu.org> <2061ef0c-de4d-d8c1-aea8-786223e59c7e@cs.ucla.edu> <83wozk1qsy.fsf@gnu.org> <8337271jz0.fsf@gnu.org> <83zi4fz91t.fsf@gnu.org> <3db2fa4f-fe6b-a5db-599e-b0bcd0b8511b@cs.ucla.edu> <83a7weyspq.fsf@gnu.org> <9c0033de-9afc-13f9-57cd-7970eb3cb07c@cs.ucla.edu> <836072yo6z.fsf@gnu.org> <78c6e835-d516-3e40-37d1-2486ed304019@cs.ucla.edu> <834lmlzdk8.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1518551855 1560 195.159.176.226 (13 Feb 2018 19:57:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 19:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: gazally@runbox.com, 30405@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 13 20:57:30 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1elghQ-0007IX-Hf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Tue, 13 Feb 2018 14:58:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50676) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1elgix-0004aZ-7Y; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 14:58:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4239 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1elgiv-0000jh-V9; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 14:58:42 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Paul Eggert on Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:43:34 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:143257 Archived-At: > Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 30405@debbugs.gnu.org, gazally@runbox.com > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:43:34 -0800 > > > That variable's purpose is to display raw bytes as readable text, so I > > definitely disagree in this specific use case. > > The abovementioned test case establishes that the variable does not in > fact always cause Emacs to display raw bytes as readable text. The only > question is whether the documentation is wrong, or the code (or both > :-). I've given a consistent interpretation that the intent of the > variable is to display raw bytes as text when in a unibyte context > (which the echo area is not). I haven't seen an alternative consistent > interpretation that's corresponds to the behavior Emacs currently > exhibits (i.e., the sort of behavior that elicited this bug report). That's your POV, but not mine. I'm not prepared to lose this variable, given the dozen line it takes to support it. Fixing the original problem without losing the effect of this variable is easy, so I see no reason to continue arguing.