From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28596: 26.0.60; Gnus gets into an ambiguous plugged/unplugged state that prevents retrieval of news Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 20:55:17 +0300 Message-ID: <83k1qdjzei.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k20mq0uq.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83tvzl98fe.fsf@gnu.org> <87efqppm4p.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bmlt76uw.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <831skd110u.fsf@gnu.org> <87wp22xvn8.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83bmjextpg.fsf@gnu.org> <87vagrj388.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <871sjfdaql.fsf_-_@moondust.localdomain> <87tvwbgino.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <83608qhl71.fsf@gnu.org> <87h8sahl3l.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <83wp16g2ky.fsf@gnu.org> <878tdmxue7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1530554286 31250 195.159.176.226 (2 Jul 2018 17:58:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 17:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, larsi@gnus.org, 28596@debbugs.gnu.org To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 02 19:58:01 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fa35N-0007zX-7J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:58:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34690 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fa37U-0003L3-Je for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34964) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fa33V-0000W1-Sg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:56:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fa33S-00070E-IE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:56:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:35990) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fa33S-0006zk-Dl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fa33S-0001QE-3i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28596 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28596-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28596.15305541425440 (code B ref 28596); Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2018 17:55:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43887 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fa337-0001Pg-NU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:55:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43700) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fa335-0001PP-Q9 for 28596@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:55:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fa32x-0006c0-DF for 28596@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:55:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33406) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fa32x-0006br-65; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:55:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3214 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fa32w-0005S2-J2; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:55:31 -0400 In-reply-to: <878tdmxue7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (nljlistbox2@gmail.com) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:148116 Archived-At: > From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) > Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 19:14:24 -0500 > Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, Eli Zaretskii , > 28596@debbugs.gnu.org > > I do not think that this bug (with the ambiguous Gnus > plugged/unplugged state) is the same as the > wait_reading_process_output bug, and I'm not entirely convinced > that the two bugs are related, but of course I might be missing > something. > > I can now reproduce this bug (#28596) at will -- and without any > apparent hang at all. So I think the hang I was experiencing while > trying to get Gnus to behave itself was a red herring -- quite > possibly I was running into the other bug while I was trying to > get myself out of this one. > > And IIUC the wait_reading_process_output bug has been in Emacs for > a while (forever?) whereas this bug exists in Emacs 26 but I have > never seen it and cannot reproduce in Emacs 25. Does the problem still exist on the current emacs-26 branch?