From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35507: Gnus mojibakifies UTF-8 text/x-patch attachments from Thunderbird Date: Fri, 03 May 2019 18:14:32 +0300 Message-ID: <83k1f7muxz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <44a26585-7980-378c-9262-a567ddd3e617@cs.ucla.edu> <865zqv3tc2.fsf@gmail.com> <838svqqdp2.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0l1o8p7.fsf@gmail.com> <86v9ytz5nk.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7g5njz1.fsf@gmail.com> <83imusq2zb.fsf@gnu.org> <87pnozfxgm.fsf@tcd.ie> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="8270"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 35507@debbugs.gnu.org, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, npostavs@gmail.com To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 03 23:17:27 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hMfYW-0012u5-3U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 May 2019 23:17:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42100 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hMZv2-0003K4-2U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 May 2019 11:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57915) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hMZut-0003JD-4x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2019 11:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hMZus-0006dF-9G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2019 11:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35785) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hMZus-0006d8-6J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2019 11:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hMZur-00030X-Tm; Fri, 03 May 2019 11:16:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 03 May 2019 15:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35507 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 35507-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35507.155689651511505 (code B ref 35507); Fri, 03 May 2019 15:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 May 2019 15:15:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49329 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hMZu7-0002zV-0M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2019 11:15:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43335) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hMZu3-0002yy-8Y for 35507@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2019 11:15:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50542) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hMZtv-0003Yg-KE; Fri, 03 May 2019 11:15:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2661 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hMZtr-0006hT-Ga; Fri, 03 May 2019 11:15:03 -0400 In-reply-to: <87pnozfxgm.fsf@tcd.ie> (contovob@tcd.ie) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:158699 Archived-At: > From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" > Cc: Noam Postavsky , <35507@debbugs.gnu.org>, > Date: Fri, 03 May 2019 15:02:01 +0100 > > Question following an initial reading of (info "(elisp) Coding System > Basics"): would it be better in this case to use prefer-utf-8 instead of > undecided? If not, why not? Because we have no reason to prefer UTF-8 in this case. No one tells us that x-patch will be predominantly encoded in UTF-8. The RFC doesn't say that UTF-8 is the default, either, and text/x-patch is not defined anywhere with that default. Which means there's no default, and in that case 'undecided' is better, because it heeds to the preferences of the user.