From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46627: [PATCH] Add new help command 'describe-command' Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 17:18:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83k0r0w2q5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <835z2o4fes.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0r1xwyy.fsf@gnu.org> <83blcdxqzy.fsf@gnu.org> <831rd9xox5.fsf@gnu.org> <3801b6be-dd65-c256-6c57-52894fad2b12@yandex.ru> <83pn0tw564.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27401"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, rms@gnu.org, 46627@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 22 16:19:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lECzb-00070c-8o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 16:19:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34216 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lECza-00089w-46 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:19:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58804) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lECzK-00085I-Vb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:19:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45642) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lECzH-0003gj-2P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:19:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lECzG-0006H3-UX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:19:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 46627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46627.161400712824052 (code B ref 46627); Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:19:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2021 15:18:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57180 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lECz2-0006Fs-E5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:18:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40872) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lECyz-0006Ff-Vf for 46627@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:18:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55949) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lECyu-0003Ww-66; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:18:40 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4743 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lECye-0001NP-Kw; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:18:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:46:50 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:200576 Archived-At: > Cc: stefan@marxist.se, larsi@gnus.org, rms@gnu.org, 46627@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:46:50 +0200 > > Saying "Emacs has these functions for doc discovery" is totally fine, > but I don't think we can stop there and ignore the current practice > among our users, or the experience from other editing environments. We are not ignoring the current practices. We are saying that people who want their discovery based on completion will find the solution in the completion alternatives we have already in Emacs, and if that still doesn't fit the bill, in the 3rd-party packages out there. I think Emacs provides, and will continue providing, ample infrastructure for such extensions, and that's enough, IMO. There's no reason we should feel obliged to develop these features in Emacs. We will never be able to satisfy everyone there anyway.