From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 08:05:19 +0300 Message-ID: <83k0okcqgg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87blabpy54.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf9eo3mq.fsf@gnus.org> <0d7924a2-d09f-e2d0-f0e7-6b5ee3a7a7f2@yandex.ru> <192e82f20f5deb690394@heytings.org> <87zgxmjkr9.fsf@gnus.org> <874kfs3585.fsf@gnus.org> <87v987z53l.fsf@gnus.org> <8fba78a42ee78011f182@heytings.org> <80b9aa43-9924-ae07-df60-87dde8c17378@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38248"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: alan@idiocy.org, 1305@debbugs.gnu.org, mwd@md5i.com, stefan@marxist.se, gregory@heytings.org, jasonspiro4@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, larsi@gnus.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 30 07:06:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lcLLv-0009ob-H9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 07:06:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56432 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcLLu-0002C2-K0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:06:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34670) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcLLm-0002Bi-Af for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45716) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcLLm-0006GG-2R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lcLLl-0000Km-T2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:06:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 05:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1305 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1305.16197591461261 (code B ref 1305); Fri, 30 Apr 2021 05:06:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2021 05:05:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57262 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lcLLQ-0000KB-CW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:05:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54626) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lcLLN-0000Jx-Jy for 1305@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:05:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56965) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcLLE-0005rk-H2; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:05:29 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2445 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lcLLD-00069L-RF; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:05:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <80b9aa43-9924-ae07-df60-87dde8c17378@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 29 Apr 2021 23:17:58 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:205220 Archived-At: > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 23:17:58 +0300 > Cc: Alan Third , 1305@debbugs.gnu.org, > Michael Welsh Duggan , Stefan Kangas , > jasonspiro4@gmail.com, Stefan Monnier , > Lars Ingebrigtsen > > > I can't really say whether it's better or worse, with visible-bell t on > > Windows the frame briefly flashes (with the FlashWindow function), a bit > > like a flash in a terminal.  Among the three visible-bell t behaviors, > > it's the best one IMO, in the sense that it's visible and not intrusive. > > Is it possible to replicate on other systems? Just so we are on the same page: FlashWindow on MS-Windows doesn't necessarily flash the frame. Or maybe I don't understand what Gregory meant by that.