From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23033: 24.5; Lock file uses the same extension as the file it's locking Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 11:24:38 +0300 Message-ID: <83k0j3oibd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8jy49fnrpl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pni3t129.fsf@marxist.se> <83eeyicxh7.fsf@gnu.org> <875zjutq51.fsf@marxist.se> <83imnta3y6.fsf@gnu.org> <83d0e19zcm.fsf@gnu.org> <878rzlqva7.fsf@gnus.org> <871r5dpeya.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6k1nymt.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7e7lxca.fsf@gnus.org> <8735pru9o9.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17712"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rgm@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, 23033@debbugs.gnu.org, mgsloan@gmail.com To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 26 10:25:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mUPTB-0004Q8-SN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2021 10:25:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46052 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUPTA-0001Z7-FI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2021 04:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47592) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUPT4-0001Yy-RU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2021 04:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUPT4-0001y8-Jl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2021 04:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUPT4-0001e5-G1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2021 04:25:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 08:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23033 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 23033-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23033.16326446906304 (code B ref 23033); Sun, 26 Sep 2021 08:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23033) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Sep 2021 08:24:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35705 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUPSr-0001dc-Rv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2021 04:24:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42444) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUPSq-0001dQ-Oz for 23033@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2021 04:24:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39182) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUPSl-0001iR-48; Sun, 26 Sep 2021 04:24:43 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3991 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUPSh-0000TF-CS; Sun, 26 Sep 2021 04:24:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 00:17:24 -0700) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215573 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 00:17:24 -0700 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rgm@gnu.org, 23033@debbugs.gnu.org, mgsloan@gmail.com > > > Perhaps they're combined auto-save and lock files? > > Something like that would be my guess. The name ".swp" suggests it's > got more to do with auto-saving. > > But come to think of it, would it be possible for us to use one combined > file? That'd complicate Emacs in non-trivial ways. Currently, the auto-save file is just a snapshot of the file's buffer, and the lock file is a specialized file whose content tells us who and when locked it. To put both of these in the same file would mean the file will need parsing. Does it really make sense to do that?