From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62370: 28.1; sieve-mode: faces should inherit from font-lock-X-face faces Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 08:58:09 +0200 Message-ID: <83jzz854zi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875yatpclo.fsf@gmail.com> <83y1no6dtd.fsf@gnu.org> <13910d348d640c50ebdc@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8767"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, gregory@heytings.org, 62370@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Trent W. 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Buck" > Cc: Gregory Heytings , Eli Zaretskii , > 62370@debbugs.gnu.org > > I don't think "I opened foo.sieve in Emacs 20 twenty years ago, and > now I opened foo.sieve in Emacs 30 today, and the colors aren't identical, and now I'm mad" > is a good argument for never changing the defaults. >From my POV, it _is_ a good argument. Especially when the defaults change in a feature that is easily customizable, and so basically you are asking to impose your preferences, which are easily catered to by your local customizations, on everyone else. > Emacs changes the defaults like that ALL THE TIME. That's not true. We do that rarely and sparingly, precisely for the reasons you consider unimportant. > If they piss me off, I just patch back in the old behaviour and forget about it. You can do the same with the current defaults, so why are you asking us to change them?