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But that would also > Eli> require to adjust a few doc strings, see below. > > So on master if I upgrade all packages, ':core' packages would be > automatically upgraded as well? is that what the default of that option means? > I strongly object to that as a default; just because thereʼs a newer > version on elpa of a :core package doesnʼt mean emacs should upgrade > to it unless *explicitly* told to do so. I said we _can_ change the default; I didn't say we _must_. If enough people object to making that the default, it won't be changed.