From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65913: with-help-window arranges for 'inhibit-read-only' to be set to 't' Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:15:02 +0300 Message-ID: <83jzsslojd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838r9anrmi.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8cem8pu.fsf@gnu.org> <83o7i5nbeq.fsf@gnu.org> <83fs3hmk33.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36833"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: uzibalqa@proton.me, heimeborgia@protonmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, 65913@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 14 18:16:16 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qgp0q-0009Pv-G8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 18:16:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgp0a-0006Vm-UE; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:16:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgp0W-0006Rt-Pc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:15:57 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgp0W-00050I-D2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:15:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qgp0b-0007nZ-RD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:16:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65913 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 65913-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65913.169470813529940 (code B ref 65913); Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 65913) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2023 16:15:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40958 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qgp0A-0007mq-HE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:15:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54154) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qgp07-0007mc-0q for 65913@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:15:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgozv-0004hP-1U; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:15:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=7+c8zLQS8fhBnXm5neL3bVHiMJUC2EiGPcmlufqmEcM=; b=F7dsbEbBCGxz DBJ6P1TAhlRVveB7VHYR8BoKa93h4YwwZZCjIdAvz6S2IMQtZnWSlIBjVygUvulazBRrsiacQDf0I 5RgmPrjlkStHwlE9SteETJK7FqrGDjcxXt8Mi6sM5FgTIHshttNRgsORit/eNy6y4VjPX6VpT6YZe 94xQWFqW6v4fKlic8c2YsDMAdNUcuY/UgkyUMGdQ1PmTROAfOiOudEvVLKjZdZZIDh0GImNruL43o hg+REEXVBPTO+MOaUn3vtJDa9c/gPbvmDJMllEcS7KJmfA0aC6oo0cLvjSlZQlhnd3XYKmQnmDiwT P3PDWTTeOiHXStmiCZS0Hg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:03:56 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:270447 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "65913@debbugs.gnu.org" <65913@debbugs.gnu.org>, > "heimeborgia@protonmail.com" , > "stefankangas@gmail.com" > Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:03:56 +0000 > > That said, more links from *Help* to manuals > could help, I think. Yes -- when either the manuals have information that is generally expected to be in the doc string, but we decided not to have it there (e.g., because it's very voluminous), or when the place in the manual where to look is not trivially clear from the doc string. In most cases, the place where to look for the related information in the manuals is quite easily found: just visit the manual and then type "i SYMBOL RET", where SYMBOL is the name of the variable or the function whose doc string you are reading.