From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6401: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:09:54 +0200 Message-ID: <83ipmc9ggd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3ECA75E7-611F-4D2A-B6B9-C0FEC96D1070@hofland.no> <822479C3-8B02-4BD7-AB56-C5D7DD31D9D6@tenkan.org> <2cmxboiol1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5kmxbovz9a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1321985573 13175 80.91.229.12 (22 Nov 2011 18:12:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6401@debbugs.gnu.org, tim@tenkan.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 22 19:12:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RSupp-0005Ki-Pk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:12:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47132 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RSupp-0002SJ-0i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:12:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52541) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RSupm-0002SD-8e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:12:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RSupl-0001jj-8B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:12:42 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33060) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RSupl-0001jf-1c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:12:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RSur3-0008Pl-IY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:14:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6401 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6401-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6401.132198563832330 (code B ref 6401); Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6401) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2011 18:13:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RSur0-0008PO-IG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:13:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RSuqy-0008PC-9h for 6401@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:13:56 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LV200A00QAVT800@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 6401@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:11:52 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.237.133]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LV200ADCQJHKKD0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:11:49 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <5kmxbovz9a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:14:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:54174 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: tim@tenkan.org, 6401@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:32:49 -0500 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Building Emacs is just one use case, even if we find a solution for > > it. The problem is much broader: Emacs running as a child of another > > Emacs gets EMACSDATA etc. variables that could well point to a wrong > > place, because they were set by a different Emacs version. > > But I would imagine that building Emacs from inside Emacs accounts for > the majority of cases where Emacs is run as a child of another Emacs. > (I can't think of any other reason one would want to do it.) The other important use case is running Emacs under a debugger invoked through GUD. This actually runs a higher risk of having two different Emacs versions: imagine that a newer Emacs has a grave bug that doesn't allow it to be used to run a debugger.