From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22436: read-coding-system uses wrong default when called from write-file Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:22 +0200 Message-ID: <83io2g1hat.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83zivx5mwu.fsf@gnu.org> <83vb6k6dqi.fsf@gnu.org> <8337to5rz9.fsf@gnu.org> <83zivw4ay5.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453822822 21052 80.91.229.3 (26 Jan 2016 15:40:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22436-done@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org To: Richard Copley Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 26 16:40:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aO5j3-0004tr-0w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 16:40:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44701 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aO5j2-0008V1-AG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:40:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45697) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aO5iw-0008TU-CF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:40:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aO5is-0004kx-DC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:40:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:49581) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aO5is-0004kq-AP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:40:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aO5is-0001HK-6B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:40:02 -0500 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 22436 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Mail-Followup-To: 22436@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, rcopley@gmail.com Original-Received: via spool by 22436-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D22436.14538227524848 (code D ref 22436); Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:40:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22436-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2016 15:39:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37800 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aO5i0-0001G3-T5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:39:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53371) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aO5hw-0001FY-Ay for 22436-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:39:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aO5hm-0004YQ-F8 for 22436-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:38:59 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38315) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aO5hm-0004YM-Bf; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:38:54 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1346 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aO5hl-0008VX-9m; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:38:53 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Copley on Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:38:15 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:111995 Archived-At: > From: Richard Copley > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:38:15 +0000 > Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 22436@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> > We can sort the list differently. But if all we want is to always get > >> > UTF-8 at the head, there's a much easier way, see my other message > >> > where I mentioned prefer-coding-system. > >> > >> I guess I'm just saying that I think the least surprising default coding > >> system here would be utf-8. > > > > For you, maybe. What about all those Chinese out there? What if I'm > > writing an email to someone in China? Etc., etc. > > What about them, and everybody else? UTF-8 is good enough > for all of us. Not in the Far East, I'm afraid. > Eli, you asked earlier if this report should be closed. I guess so! > As you've explained, it's not a bug. I don't like the default > behaviour, but it's pretty far down the list of things that I don't > like about "emacs -Q". OK, closing. Thanks for pointing that out.