From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22987: 24.5; Incorrect index entry for (elisp) `?help-e Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:03:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83io08yndj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <834mcdj8or.fsf@gnu.org> <7a63860f-3902-4dcf-a8ac-9b6af77f16d0@default> <790d9dc8-89ed-4115-953a-3a7ebc947f10@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459091132 1310 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2016 15:05:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 15:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22987@debbugs.gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 27 17:05:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1akCFb-0005JU-0v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 17:05:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36253 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akCFZ-0007Dn-M9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:05:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57851) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akCFV-0007C5-Qx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:05:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akCFS-0003Yb-IR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:05:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:43052) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akCFS-0003YU-EX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akCFS-0003Or-8g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:05:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 15:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22987 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22987-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22987.145909106513021 (code B ref 22987); Sun, 27 Mar 2016 15:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22987) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2016 15:04:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40179 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akCEq-0003Nx-Q7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:04:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38496) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akCEp-0003Nk-Gt for 22987@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:04:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akCEh-0003TS-DV for 22987@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:04:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57035) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akCDv-0003KW-QN; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:03:27 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3310 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1akCDt-00062A-Pg; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:03:26 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from John Wiegley on Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:56:50 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115556 Archived-At: > From: John Wiegley > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 22987@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:56:50 -0700 > > >>>>> Drew Adams writes: > > > Otherwise, hopefully someone else will run into the same problem eventually. > > Otherwise, I'll maybe have to stay with Emacs 24.5. > > Conversely, if you can send me your build steps, I can make a pretest build in > Windows and try it there. What about the prebuilt binaries that Phil Lord > should have uploaded to the FTP server by now. Do those work? John, this isn't a build problem. This is a problem that is triggered by something specific to Drew's use patterns of Emacs, and/or his system setup. Given the long history of these irreproducible crashes (which I suspect are mostly assertion violations, thus they don't happen in a release), I'm quite sure there's something truly unique in how Drew uses Emacs or sets it (and the support utilities) up, because no one has ever succeeded in reproducing anything even close, as far as the frequency of the crashes is concerned.