From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27932: 26.0.50; Feature request: prevent scroll commands from changing the buffer location of point Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 05:28:55 +0300 Message-ID: <83ini0t8k8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83tw1oy54c.fsf@gnu.org> <83mv7ewm1i.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgmwty18.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1502073022 10234 195.159.176.226 (7 Aug 2017 02:30:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 02:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 27932@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Dani Moncayo Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 07 04:30:15 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1deXo6-000276-Pg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 04:30:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35058 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1deXo9-0004tH-Bo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:30:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50569) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1deXny-0004rJ-On for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:30:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1deXnu-0003mz-Q4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:30:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:42462) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1deXnu-0003mY-MN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1deXnu-000352-BG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:30:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 02:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27932 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 27932-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27932.150207295711748 (code B ref 27932); Mon, 07 Aug 2017 02:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 27932) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2017 02:29:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45139 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1deXnB-00033Q-0N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:29:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59335) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1deXn9-00033B-RB for 27932@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:29:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1deXn0-0003XF-Nm for 27932@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:29:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1deXn0-0003X7-KC; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:29:06 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3893 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1deXmt-0005xC-KS; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:29:00 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Dani Moncayo on Sun, 6 Aug 2017 23:00:38 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:135525 Archived-At: > From: Dani Moncayo > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 23:00:38 +0200 > Cc: "Richard M. Stallman" , 27932@debbugs.gnu.org > > Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think that the > meaning/interpretation of 'scroll-conservatively' should be changed at > all, because AFAIK, that variable controls the auto-scroll triggered > by a point movement, and such auto-scroll would be equally necessary > with the proposed feature enabled (and should work equally). ??? The proposed feature is that point could go off the view without requiring any scrolling.