From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29766: 25.3; REGRESSION, Dired on MS Windows, switches -alF Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 05:25:40 +0200 Message-ID: <83ind3pfez.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<52375503-be26-49ea-9d31-9926a125c0db@default>> <<83lghzq0r4.fsf@gnu.org>> <07c40ae2-2160-43e3-b246-b98db5fc4b04@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1513653861 17421 195.159.176.226 (19 Dec 2017 03:24:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 03:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 29766-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 19 04:24:17 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eR8Vs-00048r-8X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 04:24:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41749 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eR8Xq-0003wm-C9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:26:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58503) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eR8Xe-0003uT-AB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:26:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eR8Xb-00005Y-1I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:26:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:60548) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eR8Xa-00005I-U3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:26:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eR8Xa-0005hI-OC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:26:02 -0500 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 03:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 29766 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Mail-Followup-To: 29766@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Original-Received: via spool by 29766-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D29766.151365394221869 (code D ref 29766); Tue, 19 Dec 2017 03:26:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29766-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2017 03:25:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40995 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eR8XF-0005gf-BO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:25:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38649) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eR8XD-0005gR-VW for 29766-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:25:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eR8X5-0007t8-F1 for 29766-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:25:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50349) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eR8X5-0007t0-C0; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:25:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1822 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eR8X4-00051V-QD; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:25:31 -0500 In-reply-to: <07c40ae2-2160-43e3-b246-b98db5fc4b04@default> (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:44:20 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141240 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:44:20 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 29766@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > 1. The #...# files are missing. > > > > > > 2. The .* (dot) files are missing. > > > > They are not missing here, at least not in some 2 random directories I > > tried, so maybe this is something specific to your system. > > You're right. Those files are mixed in with the others, instead > of being clumped together at the beginning. My directory listing > is large, and I didn't notice these few files as they were lost > in the sea of "normal" files. > > So I guess you can close this bug. Done. > > *** The ls-lisp package uses 'string-collate-lessp' to sort file names. > > The effect is that, on systems that use ls-lisp for Dired, the default > > sort order of the files in Dired is now different from what it was in > > previous versions of Emacs. In particular, the file names are sorted > > disregarding punctuation, accents, and diacritics, and letter case is > > ignored. For example, files whose name begin with a period will no > > longer appear near the beginning of the directory listing. If you > > want the old, locale-independent sorting, customize the new option > > 'ls-lisp-use-string-collate' to the nil value. > > Thanks. Yes, changing the option value to nil solves > everything. > > Why the longstanding default behavior changed? Because it makes Dired on Windows sort in the order that's much more similar to what it does on GNU/Linux (where 'ls' produces such an ordering by default in popular locales).