* bug#37173: 27.0.50; (blink-cursor-mode 0) in ~/.emacs has no effect
@ 2019-08-24 13:10 Sven Joachim
2019-08-24 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Sven Joachim @ 2019-08-24 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 37173; +Cc: Sven Joachim
I hate blinking cursors, and thus have
(blink-cursor-mode 0)
in my ~/.emacs since forever. Some recent change in the master branch
broke this, since the cursor blinks anyway :-(. I am sure this worked
until a week ago.
Interestingly, "emacs --eval '(blink-cursor-mode 0)'" still works, as
does "emacs --load somefile.el" where somefile.el contains just the line
(blink-cursor-mode 0). But from user-init-file, (blink-cursor-mode 0)
does not have an effect anymore.
In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.32)
of 2019-08-24 built on turtle
Repository revision: 42f8fa80706ee34bba98a922e2f42edcfe474bc9
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12004000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid
Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
Configured using:
'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --host x86_64-linux-gnu
--prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib
--localstatedir=/var --infodir=/usr/share/info/emacs-snapshot
--mandir=/usr/share/man --with-mailutils
--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/27.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/27.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
--without-wide-int --disable-silent-rules --without-compress-install
--with-x=yes --with-x-toolkit=gtk2 --without-gconf --without-gsettings
build_alias=x86_64-linux-gnu host_alias=x86_64-linux-gnu'
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LCMS2 GMP
Important settings:
value of $LC_COLLATE: C
value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
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* bug#37173: 27.0.50; (blink-cursor-mode 0) in ~/.emacs has no effect
2019-08-24 13:10 bug#37173: 27.0.50; (blink-cursor-mode 0) in ~/.emacs has no effect Sven Joachim
@ 2019-08-24 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-24 13:32 ` Sven Joachim
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-08-24 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sven Joachim; +Cc: 37173
> From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:10:17 +0200
> Cc: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
>
> I hate blinking cursors, and thus have
>
> (blink-cursor-mode 0)
>
> in my ~/.emacs since forever.
That's a mistake; use this instead:
(blink-cursor-mode -1)
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* bug#37173: 27.0.50; (blink-cursor-mode 0) in ~/.emacs has no effect
2019-08-24 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2019-08-24 13:32 ` Sven Joachim
2019-08-24 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Sven Joachim @ 2019-08-24 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 37173
On 2019-08-24 16:18 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
>> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:10:17 +0200
>> Cc: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
>>
>> I hate blinking cursors, and thus have
>>
>> (blink-cursor-mode 0)
>>
>> in my ~/.emacs since forever.
>
> That's a mistake; use this instead:
>
> (blink-cursor-mode -1)
The docstring says
,----
| If called interactively, enable Blink-Cursor mode if ARG is positive, and
| disable it if ARG is zero or negative. If called from Lisp,
| also enable the mode if ARG is omitted or nil, and toggle it
| if ARG is ‘toggle’; disable the mode otherwise.
`----
To me this suggests that (blink-cursor-mode 0) should disable the
blinking cursor. Anyway, (blink-cursor-mode -1) makes no difference.
Cheers,
Sven
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* bug#37173: 27.0.50; (blink-cursor-mode 0) in ~/.emacs has no effect
2019-08-24 13:32 ` Sven Joachim
@ 2019-08-24 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-24 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-08-24 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sven Joachim; +Cc: 37173
> From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
> Cc: 37173@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:32:56 +0200
>
> Anyway, (blink-cursor-mode -1) makes no difference.
Right, sorry.
I suspect this change:
commit 7e2090ee80c9099ee953392444e1d73d10e973d4
Author: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
AuthorDate: Sat Aug 3 20:19:31 2019 -0400
Commit: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
CommitDate: Tue Aug 20 20:20:52 2019 -0400
Respect global-eldoc-mode in minibuffers (Bug#36886)
* lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el (define-globalized-minor-mode): Accept
a BODY parameter.
* doc/lispref/modes.texi (Defining Minor Modes): Document new
parameter.
* etc/NEWS: Announce it.
* lisp/simple.el (read--expression): Move eldoc-mode setup to...
* lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el (eldoc--eval-expression-setup): ... here,
new function.
(global-eldoc-mode): Add or remove it to
eval-expression-minibuffer-setup-hook when enabling or disabling
global-eldoc-mode. This enables eldoc in the minibuffer (solving
Bug#27202), only when global-eldoc-mode is enabled.
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* bug#37173: 27.0.50; (blink-cursor-mode 0) in ~/.emacs has no effect
2019-08-24 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2019-08-24 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-24 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-08-24 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: svenjoac; +Cc: 37173
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 16:35:55 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: 37173@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> I suspect this change:
>
> commit 7e2090ee80c9099ee953392444e1d73d10e973d4
> Author: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
> AuthorDate: Sat Aug 3 20:19:31 2019 -0400
> Commit: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
> CommitDate: Tue Aug 20 20:20:52 2019 -0400
Actually, the culprit was this one:
commit bb5cd7c4caf415e40836edbbc4e62b0dd411d73f
Author: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
AuthorDate: Thu Aug 22 20:46:31 2019 +0300
Commit: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
CommitDate: Thu Aug 22 20:46:31 2019 +0300
Recompute user-emacs-directory-relative defcustoms one more time
* lisp/startup.el (command-line): Re-evaluate the
custom-delayed predefined variables one more time after
loading the user's init file. (Bug#37116)
I've reverted this for now, but I don't understand why re-evaluating
the custom-delayed variables should toggle a minor mode whose mode
variable is in the custom-delayed-init-variables list, when the init
file says to turn it off unconditionally. What am I missing?
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* bug#37173: 27.0.50; (blink-cursor-mode 0) in ~/.emacs has no effect
2019-08-24 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2019-08-24 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-22 21:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-08-24 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: svenjoac; +Cc: 37173
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 16:50:25 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: 37173@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Recompute user-emacs-directory-relative defcustoms one more time
>
> * lisp/startup.el (command-line): Re-evaluate the
> custom-delayed predefined variables one more time after
> loading the user's init file. (Bug#37116)
>
> I've reverted this for now, but I don't understand why re-evaluating
> the custom-delayed variables should toggle a minor mode whose mode
> variable is in the custom-delayed-init-variables list, when the init
> file says to turn it off unconditionally. What am I missing?
Don't bother answering that, I figured it out. It is a definite no-no
to re-evaluate defcustoms after loading the user's init file, doh!
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* bug#37173: 27.0.50; (blink-cursor-mode 0) in ~/.emacs has no effect
2019-08-24 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2021-09-22 21:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-09-22 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: svenjoac, 37173
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> I've reverted this for now, but I don't understand why re-evaluating
>> the custom-delayed variables should toggle a minor mode whose mode
>> variable is in the custom-delayed-init-variables list, when the init
>> file says to turn it off unconditionally. What am I missing?
>
> Don't bother answering that, I figured it out. It is a definite no-no
> to re-evaluate defcustoms after loading the user's init file, doh!
(blink-cursor-mode 0)
in .emacs still works, so I guess there isn't more to do in this bug
report, and I'm closing it.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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