From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19822: url-retrieve: allow to fail when no document is associated with the URI Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 16:37:35 +0300 Message-ID: <83imp8a8o0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o8z2l4hs.fsf@gnus.org> <835zladzbx.fsf@gnu.org> <87wodqgs0z.fsf@gnus.org> <83tv8uchxf.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7aldf0d.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="101640"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 19822@debbugs.gnu.org, ivan@siamics.net To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 01 15:44:21 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIRw-000QFR-9i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:44:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42294 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIRu-0005yU-PJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:44:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58244) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFILt-0007lp-UE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:38:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFILq-0002xF-2b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:38:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52289) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFILp-0002x2-Vn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:38:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFILp-0001F2-SY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:38:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19822 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 19822-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19822.15699370794764 (code B ref 19822); Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 13:37:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32877 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFILj-0001Eh-5M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:37:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49117) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFILd-0001EP-Eh for 19822@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:37:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFILS-0002Xk-2F; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:37:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4051 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iFILR-0002tA-9L; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:37:37 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 1 Oct 2019 15:19:28 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:167998 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 15:19:28 +0200 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 19822@debbugs.gnu.org, Ivan Shmakov > > > So we can leave the url.el interfaces alone as a backwards-compatible > > stuff and then pension off the entire url.el machinery in, say, Emacs 34. > > I don't feel very strongly about this, but I'm curious: Why don't you > want to obsolete at least some of them? I think they add user > confusion and are just not very helpful. How would obsoleting them help avoid that confusion?