From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23033: 24.5; Lock file uses the same extension as the file it's locking Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2019 09:45:05 +0200 Message-ID: <83imnta3y6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8jy49fnrpl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pni3t129.fsf@marxist.se> <83eeyicxh7.fsf@gnu.org> <875zjutq51.fsf@marxist.se> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="37732"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 23033@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Sloan Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 09 08:46:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iTLRi-0009iO-6k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 08:46:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35246 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iTLRg-00006W-R2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 02:46:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36023) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iTLRb-00006K-EG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 02:46:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTLRa-0003r0-EF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 02:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39289) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTLRa-0003qq-Ay for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 02:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iTLRZ-0004jV-Sy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 02:46:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2019 07:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23033 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 23033-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23033.157328552118137 (code B ref 23033); Sat, 09 Nov 2019 07:46:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23033) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Nov 2019 07:45:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48110 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iTLQv-0004iT-IH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 02:45:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55083) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iTLQt-0004iF-W7 for 23033@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 02:45:20 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36476) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTLQo-0002zM-FO; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 02:45:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1835 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iTLQm-0000hI-NY; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 02:45:13 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Michael Sloan on Fri, 8 Nov 2019 22:17:29 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171303 Archived-At: > From: Michael Sloan > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 22:17:29 -0800 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Glenn Morris , 23033@debbugs.gnu.org > > Appending `.lock` seems fine to me (note the period rather than hyphen). I don't find it ugly, instead > explanatory! If users do see these file names, then it is clearer that they are lock files. There is precedent for > use of this file extension[0], and there's also lots of precedent for stacking file extensions. > > I propose keeping the traditional `.#` prefix but adding a `.lock` suffix. I think we should only consider adding punctuation characters, because that would ensure these lock files are displayed right next to the files they lock, like today. Moving the lock files away of the files they lock in the directory listing would be a disadvantage, IMO.