From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13810: 24.3.50; Docstring of `newline' is confusing Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 19:20:59 +0200 Message-ID: <83imkzpi4k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20130225180309.53675e52a9cffc46b2478578@gmail.com> <87y5ecshu5.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <20130225204806.e306ddd2a7cc317dd370d019@gmail.com> <87obf8sfvo.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <20130225212742.dcfd2a0b66f473545c131b14@gmail.com> <834nh0jsuh.fsf@gnu.org> <20130226063311.c2146008207b905d3cb83070@gmail.com> <83k3pvivob.fsf@gnu.org> <87pnf77dfq.fsf@marxist.se> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="99138"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 13810@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 25 18:30:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ivPG9-000Pkb-67 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 18:30:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55936 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ivPG8-0003ya-97 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:30:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ivP8H-00018n-7T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:22:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ivP8G-00087A-87 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:22:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:50303) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ivP8G-0007zn-4X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:22:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ivP8E-0004LC-0u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:22:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 17:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13810 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 13810-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13810.157997288316642 (code B ref 13810); Sat, 25 Jan 2020 17:22:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13810) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2020 17:21:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56276 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ivP7a-0004KM-MS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:21:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57157) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ivP7Y-0004K9-Qe for 13810@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:21:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60491) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ivP7T-0005Oh-6r; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:21:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2861 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ivP7S-0003KW-43; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:21:14 -0500 In-reply-to: <87pnf77dfq.fsf@marxist.se> (message from Stefan Kangas on Sat, 25 Jan 2020 16:39:37 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:175272 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Cc: Xue Fuqiao , stephen.berman@gmx.net, > 13810@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 16:39:37 +0100 > > 1. emacs -Q > 2. M-x fundamental-mode > 3. M-x set-variable RET left-margin RET 3 RET > > Now `newline' (RET) does not indent to column 3. However, > `electric-newline-and-maybe-indent' (C-j) does indent to that > column. This seems to contradict the doc string of `left-margin', > which says "Linefeed indents to this column in Fundamental mode." Linefeed is not RET, nor "newline". It's C-j. > I also found some possibility for improving the doc string of > `newline', and propose the attached patch. WDYT? That's OK, but it's unrelated, isn't it?