From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40725: 27.0.91; Tutorial reports false positive key rebindings Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 18:51:22 +0300 Message-ID: <83imhoanlx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <187E7752-27CA-4304-8BBB-695B9588DEC2@acm.org> <83d07xb2wp.fsf@gnu.org> <569DDA5E-28F0-4329-86B2-C9AE3AC4427F@acm.org> <831rodb035.fsf@gnu.org> <37969D02-FD67-4563-BD01-A2F483999D79@acm.org> <5d826e4e-bcaf-6d08-7bc9-5c0875db2dfb@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="38464"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: contovob@tcd.ie, mattiase@acm.org, 40725@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 17:52:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jS0ch-0009tc-R0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 17:52:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42344 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jS0cg-00011a-PF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:52:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34280) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jS0cV-0000yX-Dz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jS0cU-0004qf-UA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46225) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jS0cU-0004pG-GQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jS0cU-0006NN-DB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40725 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 40725-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40725.158774350524489 (code B ref 40725); Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40725) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2020 15:51:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57771 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jS0cD-0006Mv-C3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:51:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59372) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jS0cC-0006Mh-0x for 40725@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:51:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60011) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jS0c6-0002wN-0C; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:51:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1689 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jS0c4-0001eq-FA; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:51:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5d826e4e-bcaf-6d08-7bc9-5c0875db2dfb@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 24 Apr 2020 18:38:29 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178931 Archived-At: > Cc: contovob@tcd.ie, 40725@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 18:38:29 +0300 > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=39044 > > It's not insurmountable, of course (I expect we'll fix it for Emacs 28). > But let's not ignore the problems either. The problems aren't insurmountable, sure. They just add complications. In most cases, if you are aware a rename was made, you can tweak the VCS commands to handle that. But (a) you need to be aware, and that is not always obvious; and (b) how to tweak the commands is also not always obvious. If you fail to notice and/or fail to tweak the command as required, you might very well see incorrect information and make the wrong decisions. It happened to me several times, so I'd rather we avoided that if possible.