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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: 44674@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#44674: 28.0.50; Adding current-cpu-time for performance tests
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 21:12:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ima5ru8h.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAArVCkTicT1zE1pbvwe-p+mA7L_6U=spe3zR4dSTNtA9vpvbvg@mail.gmail.com> (message from Philipp Stephani on Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:31:47 +0100)

> From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:31:47 +0100
> Cc: 44674@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> 
> Am Mo., 16. Nov. 2020 um 18:17 Uhr schrieb Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
> >
> > > From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 12:46:07 +0100
> > > Cc: 44674@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> > >
> > > > Btw, once this goes in, how about making benchmark-run use it?
> > >
> > > benchmark-run measures walltime, not CPU time
> >
> > It does now, but we may want to change that.
> 
> That would be a breaking change.

I could argue that it's a bugfix.

> > Does it really make
> > sense to "benchmark" something using elapsed time?
> 
> Yes, the benchmarks I know all measure wall time. After all, that's
> what the user cares about.

??? On a system that is heavily loaded, and Emacs doesn't get an
execution unit close to 100% of the time, the wallclock time can be so
skewed as to defeat any meaningful measurements.  E.g., imagine that
you are running a benchmark while (another version of) Emacs is being
built with "make -jN", with N large enough to make all the cores busy.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-16 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-16  1:07 bug#44674: 28.0.50; Adding current-cpu-time for performance tests Stefan Monnier
2020-11-16  7:13 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-11-16  7:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16  8:18   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 11:46     ` Philipp Stephani
2020-11-16 17:17       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 18:31         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-11-16 19:12           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-11-16 22:09           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-16 10:11 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-16 10:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 10:48     ` Philipp Stephani
2020-11-16 10:53     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-16 17:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 15:27   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-16 16:14     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-16 17:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 17:38       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 17:59         ` Andreas Schwab
2020-11-16 18:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 18:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-16 19:22           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 18:32       ` Philipp Stephani
2020-11-16 19:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 20:10         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-16 18:41       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-16 18:39     ` Philipp Stephani
2020-11-16 19:07       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-16 17:13   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 19:15     ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-04-26 13:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-26 15:13   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-27 13:09     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-27 17:14       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-27 17:20         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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