From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#47711: bug#48841: bug#47711: [PATCH VERSION 2] Add new `completion-filter-completions` API and deferred highlighting Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 15:43:59 +0300 Message-ID: <83im058sq8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9f59f87c-2489-aaa0-5b3f-0e911b7ffa6c@daniel-mendler.de> <8a36e61a-1c5b-bf3b-a454-077348589c4f@yandex.ru> <87y29471ov.fsf@gmail.com> <837dgob6yo.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnootec0.fsf@gnus.org> <5d70b0ad-3838-ddb8-d341-9a5531d9da73@yandex.ru> <0cbf224b-b382-8a02-3f06-9f6d7e5e9741@yandex.ru> <87a6lihv7b.fsf@gmail.com> <63e03b18-db81-3b11-c692-0af9df20c506@daniel-mendler.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13885"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: joaotavora@gmail.com, 48841@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 47711@debbugs.gnu.org To: Daniel Mendler Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 16 14:45:08 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbzI-0003Ou-Pi for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:45:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45086 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbzH-0000Bw-8J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:45:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbzC-0000Bg-05 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37339) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbzB-00021P-QF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:45:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbzB-0008M6-OJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:45:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 12:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47711 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 47711-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47711.162911786432060 (code B ref 47711); Mon, 16 Aug 2021 12:45:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 47711) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2021 12:44:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48885 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbyV-0008Ku-Pr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:44:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51464) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbyL-0008KR-Sd; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:44:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46722) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbyG-0001uW-Ct; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1648 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbyG-0000ve-09; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:44:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Daniel Mendler on Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:05:54 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:212006 Archived-At: > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , Lars Ingebrigtsen , > 47711@debbugs.gnu.org, 48841@debbugs.gnu.org, > Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii > From: Daniel Mendler > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:05:54 +0200 > > João, the discussion is clearly not progressing. I propose that we both > take a step back and let the Emacs maintainers, who participated in this > discussion, decide on how to proceed. It seems to me that all arguments > and data has been presented and there is no need for further > reiterations in more and more colorful language. As I wrote elsewhere, I'd like to see the performance aspects of this to be presented from both sides, and agreed upon. I don't think we can make the decision before we have performance data we all agree about. The other pros and cons are all of qualitative nature, and involve intuition, personal experience, and personal preferences, so each one will have their own balance. But performance is both basic and qualitative, and we should have the facts and agree on them.