From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57372: no-toolkit menu popups do not respect emacs font configuration Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 22:02:08 +0300 Message-ID: <83ilmg2llb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lerek7pt.fsf@logand.com> <83k06y74sy.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8qihxbk.fsf@logand.com> <87czcp29m6.fsf@yahoo.com> <834jy17umv.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgftzvqt.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sfll6d38.fsf@gnu.org> <87k06xilb0.fsf@logand.com> <83y1vd4j55.fsf@gnu.org> <87edx5ihz3.fsf@logand.com> <83sfll4esu.fsf@gnu.org> <8735dli9t3.fsf@logand.com> <837d2w4yfb.fsf@gnu.org> <87k06wb2vc.fsf@logand.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7419"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 57372@debbugs.gnu.org To: Tomas Hlavaty Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 25 21:03:26 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oRI8T-0001ft-H4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 21:03:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57168 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRI8S-00087g-0m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:03:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60864) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRI86-00087T-KO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:03:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:33323) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRI86-0006Ho-2e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oRI85-0000sn-P1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:03:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 19:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 57372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57372.16614541253326 (code B ref 57372); Thu, 25 Aug 2022 19:03:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 57372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2022 19:02:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51305 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oRI7A-0000ra-U3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:02:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40076) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oRI78-0000r4-P6 for 57372@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37506) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRI73-000690-DH; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:01:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=AatDKWh/a9EAL9S6hra0j4fMmwRpK1U0L8/0kgwDoto=; b=p3i54jbLz0zn QKjqVYqW/93StYL6/UlmNiikjs/4U7Dlr2GeIbAgCVjfb13Gxqbi9ZL42rvk71A5SMIwNKQ59g0xW 45ayvEijgpFn686SElxYaPmwvQZibdQ0xmnJX62fs1nZgNObeKNk+zZhLsu0PNAw7CTZvrBYg6dSi 9H3XcXhuqXX6FNZqw9P02fS0Li7CjTdBnrzuovAt2FBxB80Yf+Pn8MgYW+G/M/PzLxLMZk8/EwOSs gC23Lfq5ZXqwxqfmJo0CaYWfYXkZJP7M3pGbk2wc+L5eh8U6bAPbFnGbIApm80LgRKVetRRSPzm4K R7eCt/j+3NG/7yVGzntpTA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3944 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRI72-0006HV-SR; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:01:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k06wb2vc.fsf@logand.com> (message from Tomas Hlavaty on Thu, 25 Aug 2022 20:21:43 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:240742 Archived-At: > From: Tomas Hlavaty > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 57372@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 20:21:43 +0200 > > On Thu 25 Aug 2022 at 09:42, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> This font size change happens on demand, when a key is pressed. > > > > Do you really need to do this frequently? If so, why is that? why not > > set the size that is convenient for you, and more or less forget about > > it? > > Frequency is not that relevant. Convenience is relevant. It should > happen after key press. This is an exaggeration, and as such, not useful. It is unreasonable to expect everything be done at a keypress. Infrequent operations can be less convenient than frequent ones, because that inconvenience basically happens once in a blue moon. > It is not something I invented, it is important use-case and pretty > much essential part of GUI programs these days. Try for example C-+ > and C-- in firefox or xfce4-terminal. When I do that in Firefox, the displayed text is resized, but not the menus or the tool bar. > > I guess I don't understand why one would need to change the size > > frequently, especially the size of the menu items, which basically > > stay unchanged. > > We already discussed several issues with the X resources based text: > > - The font configuration is alien to emacs with many issues and downsides. > - It is not possible to change it dynamically. That's nowhere near a catastrophe for such an infrequent setting.