From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4712: File encoding Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:11:24 +0200 Message-ID: <83hbu1j16b.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 4712@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1255544934 22821 80.91.229.12 (14 Oct 2009 18:28:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ezander@valkyrie.sc.cs.tu-bs.de, 4712@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 14 20:28:43 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1My8aX-0003l9-Vq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:28:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34300 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1My8aX-0005Zt-EQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:28:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1My8ZF-0004xE-55 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:27:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1My8ZA-0004tt-Ab for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:27:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53427 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1My8Z9-0004tP-OY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:27:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:39609) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1My8Z8-000147-8D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:27:14 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9EIRAmF012334; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:27:11 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9EIF7Ff010575; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:15:07 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:15:07 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:15:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4712 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4712-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4712.12555437869630 (code B ref 4712); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:15:07 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4712) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 14 Oct 2009 18:09:46 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il (mtaout23.012.net.il [80.179.55.175]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9EI9iq8009627 for <4712@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:09:46 -0700 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KRI00B00NQCPI00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 4712@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:09:27 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.70.117.47]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KRI00BN3NRP6G10@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:09:26 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:27:20 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:31931 Archived-At: > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: Stefan Monnier , 4712@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, > ezander@valkyrie.sc.cs.tu-bs.de > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:33:19 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Maybe so, but this part of the OP's report: > > > > value of $LANG: en_AU.UTF-8 > > locale-coding-system: utf-8 > > > > indicates that UTF-8 is the "native" encoding on the OP's machine, and > > there is an overwhelming user demand for silently and transparently > > switch to such a native encoding when we need to select an encoding. > > How can silently producing a broken file be desirable? It isn't, and we don't. You misunderstood what I was saying.