From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14326: 24.3; Conflict of w32-send-sys-command and set-default-font Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 22:25:56 +0300 Message-ID: <83haijn9vf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5180DD2B.3080407@gmx.at> <83a9oepwuu.fsf@gnu.org> <5182307C.6000102@gmx.at> <83mwsdnwc8.fsf@gnu.org> <5182B156.2000100@gmx.at> <83bo8tnre7.fsf@gnu.org> <5182B999.4050304@gmx.at> <838v3xnpdo.fsf@gnu.org> <51835DBB.1060609@gmx.at> <4386D48859F6492782CD444664DB8711@us.oracle.com> <83ppx8m5di.fsf@gnu.org> <485D052803B741AB8EE23142D30E1DA8@us.oracle.com> <83mwsclz2j.fsf@gnu.org> <89CF77401D72463FB388F000A0008788@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367609252 24587 80.91.229.3 (3 May 2013 19:27:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 19:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eenliu@gmail.com, 14326@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 03 21:27:31 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UYLde-0000Bp-PD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 May 2013 21:27:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36149 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYLde-0003KU-BN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 May 2013 15:27:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60671) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYLda-0003K8-0I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2013 15:27:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYLdZ-0002Pt-3i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2013 15:27:21 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53203) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYLdZ-0002Pp-08 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2013 15:27:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UYLeD-0001q4-V3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2013 15:28:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 19:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14326 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14326-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14326.13676092226939 (code B ref 14326); Fri, 03 May 2013 19:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14326) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 May 2013 19:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57312 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UYLdF-0001ne-UW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2013 15:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:52624) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UYLdD-0001nN-6C for 14326@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2013 15:27:00 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MM800900LPFTR00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 14326@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2013 22:26:16 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MM80094ZLZOSV30@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 03 May 2013 22:26:12 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <89CF77401D72463FB388F000A0008788@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:73928 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , , <14326@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 11:19:25 -0700 > > I thought you said that to resize the frame when it has been maximized one does > NOT need to first unmaximize it: just go ahead and change the frame parameters > that establish the new size. Yes. > And I thought you said that trying to resize the frame by using `set-frame-font' > (with nil KEEP-SIZE: the default) would be an exception to this. To resize the > frame using `set-frame-font' you would first need to unmaximize the frame. Yes. > If I understand correctly so far then my question is why resizing the frame > using `set-frame-font' (with nil KEEP-SIZE) should be an exception. Because the frame is maximized, which means the user _wants_ it to stay that way. > `set-frame-font' resizes the frame, by default, if the new font size is > different. That is what it is supposed to do. I asked _you_ why would _you_ want that. The fact that someone at some point thought KEEP-SIZE should be nil by default, including in maximized frames (which, btw, didn't exist at that time) does not mean this is the absolute truth. Do _you_ have any reasons to believe that default is justified? > `set-frame-font' is one way of changing the frame size No, it's just a way to change the font.