From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14513: 24.3.50; Site load-path pieces differ in MSYS build Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 22:29:29 +0300 Message-ID: <83hahk467a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y5aw4e0x.fsf@gnu.org> <83r4go49dg.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1369942185 12732 80.91.229.3 (30 May 2013 19:29:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 19:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14513@debbugs.gnu.org To: Richard Copley Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 30 21:29:44 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui8Xg-0006uj-J7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 21:29:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33045 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui8Xf-0000sf-Ot for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 15:29:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38105) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui8XY-0000sV-Pa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 15:29:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui8XT-00010w-SN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 15:29:36 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54498) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui8XT-00010q-Oi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 15:29:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui8Yw-00055Y-BM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 15:31:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 19:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14513 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14513-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14513.136994225119523 (code B ref 14513); Thu, 30 May 2013 19:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14513) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 May 2013 19:30:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42855 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui8Yk-00054p-Sr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 15:30:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:51585) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui8Yj-00054Y-6S for 14513@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 15:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MNM00B00LWNQ800@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 14513@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 22:29:12 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MNM00BVNM4NIB60@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 30 May 2013 22:29:12 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:74676 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 20:14:35 +0100 > From: Richard Copley > > > > c:\>dir /B c:\emacs > > > emacs-111818 > > > emacs-112125 > > > emacs-112416 > > > site-lisp > > > > You can still have separate directories like that, unless I'm missing > > something. The directory structure below emacs-NNNNNN directories > > will be different, but that's all. > > > > Also the site-lisp directory will not be on the load-path. Your site-lisp won't, but the one in ROOT/share/emacs will. > I'm not actively using more than one build. Then why do you need separate trees? That's the only reason why you need the site-lisp outside of the Emacs tree. Use the Posix-standard structure and one root for all the Emacs installations, and the problem is gone, because you have the common site-lisp directory in ROOT/share/emacs. > > it should be easy to create a simple script that, given a root > > directory and a version, will delete the subdirectories that belong to > > that version only. There aren't too many directories to delete, > > basically libexec/emacs/VERSION and share/emacs/VERSION. That, and > > the emacs-VERSION*.exe executables in bin/. > > > > Did I miss something? > > > > With the uninstallation? No idea. It's ok, there's no way I'll be doing > that. You mean, you will never uninstall? Then why do you keep the versions separate? > > The new structure has advantages which I described in that mail in > > March. > > (1) You're the first one I know about who thinks that's important. Well, maybe I'm the only one who works on so many platforms. > (2) is wrong. It's not wrong as long as you keep all the installations under the same root, like /usr/local on Unix. > (3) I don't follow. Other platforms, really? Yes. Imagine that your --prefix is on a networked volume that can be accessed from Windows and Unix systems alike. Then only the architecture-dependent files (binaries) need to be separate; everything under %emacs_dir%/share/emacs/ can be installed only once and used by Emacs from any OS.