From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19989: 25.0.50; Build instructions on Windows Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 11:11:45 +0200 Message-ID: <83h9txmasu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20150303163453.GA25244@math.berkeley.edu> <834mq2qana.fsf@gnu.org> <83385mq9og.fsf@gnu.org> <20150303203037.GA26426@math.berkeley.edu> <83pp8ppgvw.fsf@gnu.org> <20150305211821.GA2915@math.berkeley.edu> <83lhjao7fr.fsf@gnu.org> <54F971AD.2050907@gmx.at> <20150306095952.GA11017@math.berkeley.edu> <8361aenzor.fsf@gnu.org> <20150307014404.GC18273@math.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1425719547 26287 80.91.229.3 (7 Mar 2015 09:12:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 09:12:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19989@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ilya Zakharevich Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 07 10:12:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YUAmO-00009j-76 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 10:12:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33791 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUAmN-0002Lu-Hq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 04:12:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36487) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUAmF-0002HQ-C9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 04:12:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUAmA-0002qc-69 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 04:12:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39533) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUAmA-0002qU-3c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 04:12:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YUAm9-0005h1-LI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 04:12:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 09:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19989 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19989-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19989.142571951121864 (code B ref 19989); Sat, 07 Mar 2015 09:12:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19989) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2015 09:11:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38101 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YUAly-0005gW-UO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 04:11:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:61695) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YUAlw-0005gF-6W for 19989@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 04:11:49 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NKU00I0046AFR00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 19989@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 11:11:41 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NKU00IR447HC890@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 11:11:41 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20150307014404.GC18273@math.berkeley.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:100224 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 17:44:04 -0800 > From: Ilya Zakharevich > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 19989@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 01:16:36PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 01:59:52 -0800 > > > From: Ilya Zakharevich > > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 19989@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > A) apparently, the download and build instructions changes not so > > > long ago, so what google finds are obsolete irrelevant > > > instructions. > > > > The build instructions changed in May 2013, almost 2 years ago. > > Irrelevant. Relevant. You should look at the date of the instructions you get from Google before you consider them valid. > Google brings (many variants) of wrong instructions about > • what to download > • how to build it >  — and no correct instructions (at least close to the top of the list; > my google shows 80 hits, and it did not help much). Which might mean that everybody else succeeded in building Emacs just by following nt/INSTALL. > If you download an obsolete version, you get obsolete instructions > (coming with this version). So it is hard to detect that what you get > is bogus. The first place to look is in the package, not in Google hits. Follow that rule, and you will be generally fine, not only with Emacs. > > > The warning which nt/configure.bat gives is not specific enough (at > > > least when shown on background of all the [wrong] info found by googling): > > > > If no one complains about something major for the MinGW/MSYS build > > when Emacs 24.5 is released, nt/configure.bat will be deleted from the > > repository, so it won't be able to confuse anyone anymore. > > In view of the results of googling, I would prefer if this file were > kept, but would produce a message like > > Build via nt/configure.bat is replaced by a build via: > installing MSYS, MINGW, and running the top-level configure. > See nt/INSTALL for details. Leaving the file for that purpose makes no sense. If someone is looking for it because it was mentioned in some Google hit, they will know the hit was outdated.