From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20629: 25.0.50; Regression: TAGS broken, can't find anything in C++ files. 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The answer to that is lost in history (for me). Perhaps Richard and Francesco (cc'ed) will remember. But since it is here, it is, IMO, a Good Thing, because we can easily affect its operation where it's important to us. Especially lately, when the front-end was changed, and the new one has different expectations. > It's my (superficial) impression that etags hasn't progressed much since > then. The majority of the changes seem to have been generic code-cleanup > stuff. That's not true, there were a couple of non-trivial changes lately that are not cleanups, and I think there will be one more soon. This thread discusses some of them, the other one is discussed here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-05/msg00291.html > Is it that etags recognizes Emacs-specific C code that ctags does not? Which ctags do you allude to here? There are quite a few of them out there. > My only motivation for asking is that it's good to reduce the number of > things that need to be maintained in Emacs, where possible. I don't think we should remove this one, no.