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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Mark Karpov <markkarpov@openmailbox.org>
Cc: 20943@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de
Subject: bug#20943: 25.0.50; Dired buffers are not always auto-reverted
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:03:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83h9pcbfst.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87twtcsbdo.fsf@openmailbox.org>

> From: Mark Karpov <markkarpov@openmailbox.org>
> Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, 20943@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 13:46:43 +0600
> 
> 
> You're saying:
> 
> > Why is such a different logic a good idea?  If the user requests
> > auto-reverts in a remote directory, she should get what she asked for,
> > IMO.  It would be confusing to have different results depending on
> > whether the directory is local or not.
> 
> >From this I understand that you are in favor of “dynamic”
> auto-revert-mode for remote directories. This makes sense, if user
> chooses to auto-revert Dired buffers, ‘she should get what she asked
> for’ — that's right.
> 
> > But the price is the need to re-read remote directories, and we want
> > to avoid that price, if possible.
> 
> But this is not possible. This contradicts with the previous
> quotation.

Only because you take my quotation out of its context.  What we want
to avoid is the price of re-reading the directory when the user copies
or deletes or renames a file via Dired commands, _as-an_immediate_result_
of these commands.  We cannot possibly avoid re-reading it when the
time comes to check if the buffer is stale and needs to be reverted.

IOW, the directory _will_ be re-read, but only when the notification
about some changes comes in or the 5-sec timer for checking whether
the directory is stale expires.  it will _not_ be re-read as result of
your copying or deleting a file.





  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-10  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-30 18:19 bug#20943: 25.0.50; Dired buffers are not always auto-reverterd Mark Karpov
2015-06-30 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-01  5:58   ` Michael Albinus
2015-07-01  7:15     ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-01  8:55       ` Michael Albinus
2015-07-01  9:09         ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-01 15:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-01 15:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <87y4j0fj8m.fsf@openmailbox.org>
2015-07-01 15:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-02  8:02       ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-02 14:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-03  7:33           ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-03  8:18             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-03  9:39               ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-03 12:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-03 12:37                   ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-03 13:02                   ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-03 13:43                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-03 13:49                       ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-03 16:08                       ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-04  8:31                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-04  8:49                           ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-04  9:20                         ` Michael Albinus
2015-07-04  9:32                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-04 14:35                             ` Drew Adams
2015-07-04 14:33                           ` Drew Adams
2015-07-01  7:23 ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-02 10:49 ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-09 13:24 ` bug#20943: 25.0.50; Dired buffers are not always auto-reverted Mark Karpov
2015-07-09 14:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-09 15:30     ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-09 18:41       ` Michael Albinus
2015-07-09 19:42         ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-10  5:46           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-10  6:01             ` Michael Albinus
2015-07-10  7:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-10  8:46                 ` Michael Albinus
2015-07-16 18:12                   ` Michael Albinus
2015-07-17 20:40                     ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-18 10:37                       ` Michael Albinus
2015-07-18 18:20                         ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-14 16:28               ` Michael Albinus
2015-07-09 19:50         ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-10  5:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-10  6:20             ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-10  7:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-10  7:46                 ` Mark Karpov
2015-07-10  8:03                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-07-09 15:40     ` Mark Karpov

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