From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29586: Please revert change to package deletion Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2017 10:58:40 +0200 Message-ID: <83h8t0uvjz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mv2twl5w.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512810023 8909 195.159.176.226 (9 Dec 2017 09:00:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 09:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: adam@alphapapa.net, 29586@debbugs.gnu.org To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 09 10:00:16 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNazY-0001wu-0N for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 10:00:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40513 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNaza-0000zg-2C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 04:00:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50567) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNazQ-0000y4-PI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 04:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNazL-00011R-5l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 04:00:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:44422) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNazL-00011I-2R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 04:00:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNazK-0008RX-Ok for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 04:00:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2017 09:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29586 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 29586-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29586.151280995232363 (code B ref 29586); Sat, 09 Dec 2017 09:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29586) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2017 08:59:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53102 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNayW-0008Pv-2F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 03:59:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59211) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNayU-0008Pj-AZ for 29586@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 03:59:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNayO-0000VH-7v for 29586@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 03:59:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58419) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNayJ-0000PV-DX; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 03:58:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4230 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eNayI-0003BA-J7; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 03:58:59 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from John Wiegley on Fri, 08 Dec 2017 21:50:31 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:140846 Archived-At: > From: John Wiegley > Cc: adam@alphapapa.net, 29586@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 21:50:31 -0800 > > >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: > > EZ> The problem is that many users have their packages auto-updated, so the > EZ> trash piles up quite quickly. > > Not to be contentious, but how much of an impact could that really have for > Emacs packages? I use >350 packages, and my site-lisp is 400M. Even if I > auto-updated everything, every day, that's *still* ~1% of my disk, which is > what I usually allocate for trash accumulation. The disk space is not the issue, I think, not nowadays. I believe the issue is the _number_ of files in the trash: if there are an awful lot of them, they make looking for those "precious" mistakenly deleted files harder. Or at least this is my understanding; I don't use trash, so have no experience of my own to share.