From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23171: 25.0.92; Key binding conventions for all modifiers Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:05:41 +0200 Message-ID: <83h83ecyca.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831t6qv492.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2wrt1gl.fsf@marxist.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="10808"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 23171@debbugs.gnu.org, p.stephani2@gmail.com To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 08 14:07:32 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3z9-0002gA-E1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 14:07:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54042 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3z7-0006rZ-T3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:07:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50287) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3yi-0006fH-MQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:07:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3yg-0004rL-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:07:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36115) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3yg-0004r7-9u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:07:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3yf-0005Fz-Vs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:07:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 13:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23171 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 23171-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23171.157321837120143 (code B ref 23171); Fri, 08 Nov 2019 13:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23171) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2019 13:06:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44936 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3xr-0005Ep-0f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:06:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40926) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3xo-0005EZ-8e for 23171@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:06:09 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3xj-000463-3A; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:06:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4851 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3xg-0006j3-Fa; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:06:02 -0500 In-reply-to: <87y2wrt1gl.fsf@marxist.se> (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 08 Nov 2019 05:51:38 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171201 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 23171@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 05:51:38 +0100 > > Philipp Stephani writes: > > > Eli Zaretskii schrieb am Do., 31. März 2016 um 21:26 Uhr: > > > > > From: Philipp Stephani > > > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:40:25 +0200 > > > > > > The manual entry "Key binding conventions" talks only about a small > > > subset of possible key bindings, such as the C-c prefix and the function > > > keys. Keys with Meta, Super, Hyper, and Alt are not documented. The > > > manual should contain conventions/rules for all possible keys. > > > > I'm not sure I understand the essence of the report. There's a whole > > section (named, unsurprisingly, "Key Bindings") dedicated to key > > bindings, and a subsection there named "Modifier Keys" covers all the > > modifiers, AFAICT. > > > > What I mean is a specification which combinations are reserved for the user, minor modes, and major modes. Context is > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=22604, where such an addition was requested for C-c combinations. Here I request > > one for all keys. > > Which conventions are we talking about here more specifically? Could > you enumerate them or give a couple of examples? FWIW, I don't see any need for any further specifications. The manual says what keys to reserve; all those which aren't mentioned, including with modifiers, aren't reserved.