From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48504: Improve style of C-h t description (Preface) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 05:24:10 +0300 Message-ID: <83h7izqx4l.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83im3frgsr.fsf@gnu.org> <3195631d-1f4c-2b55-b7ed-9bb919458c76@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6081"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48504@debbugs.gnu.org To: Sebastian Urban Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 19 04:25:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBtd-0001QQ-6w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 04:25:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42862 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBtc-0006Ud-8p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:25:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47702) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBtP-0006UN-5f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46107) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBtO-00075d-MK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBtO-0004fx-GV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:25:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 02:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48504 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48504-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48504.162139105317911 (code B ref 48504); Wed, 19 May 2021 02:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48504) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2021 02:24:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57653 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBsb-0004eo-0R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:24:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53924) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBsZ-0004eb-VQ for 48504@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:24:12 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33226) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBsU-0006Xx-PV; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:24:06 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3622 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBsT-0001XE-0h; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:24:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3195631d-1f4c-2b55-b7ed-9bb919458c76@gmail.com> (message from Sebastian Urban on Tue, 18 May 2021 22:35:37 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:206851 Archived-At: > Cc: 48504@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Sebastian Urban > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 22:35:37 +0200 > > >> Currently, in the Preface of the Emacs manual (EMACS.TEXI - L1291), > >> there is: > >> To run the tutorial, start Emacs and type @kbd{C-h t} (which is > >> ``control h and then t''). > >> > >> I think, the part between parens should look better, e.g. similar to > >> this part of SCREEN.TEXI (L126): > >> ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{x}, then let go of > >> @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{=})... > >> ...i.e.: > >> ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{h}, then let go of > >> @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{t}). > > > > We didn't yet introduce the Ctrl etc. notation at that place. > > What about "Control" instead of "Ctrl"? You mean, just capitalize what the text already says? no objections here.