From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53452: 29.0.50; C- selection broken by translate-upper-case-key-bindings Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:45:09 +0200 Message-ID: <83h79shtm2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20220122182635.hi7i2alow4ishyz5.ref@Ergus> <20220122182635.hi7i2alow4ishyz5@Ergus> <834k5vmvf0.fsf@gnu.org> <87czkhjtes.fsf@gmail.com> <83wnipjohu.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmohi818.fsf@gmail.com> <83r18xjlrj.fsf@gnu.org> <87czkgi0cq.fsf@gmail.com> <83mtjkhubf.fsf@gnu.org> <878rv4htza.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14988"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, 53452@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 25 15:27:59 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nCMnf-0003ir-1b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 15:27:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33160 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCMne-000339-1E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:27:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCLD0-0002aM-JC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:46:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54371) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCLD0-00083I-A9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCLD0-0004YU-9t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:46:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53452 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 53452-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53452.164311472815196 (code B ref 53452); Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53452) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2022 12:45:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47274 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCLCR-0003we-Ec for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:45:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34454) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCLCP-0003pF-HQ for 53452@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:45:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=33456 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCLCJ-0007vk-Qj; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:45:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=Eew4PTIqgNNLE7ibadW4AlU9TUEIUcKFDmcYiA1wYWU=; b=C/zUs0sCkUk1v3RzMUqC dVQoSpDHjmP0UV2P0UuCmPD7CdEZobByyISTavusqYCi2+OIuypuaKLg0y7CAa8xo+ajoYV0C+bRy 2VAc3CVIeMZfKWBnbiwoG/LAZvXVyx8wbdQDSkD1cqTSxTnbf3lfJlNSl6eN5Ze9sN4DOEujtBSQE XAjJQkyq0IeyIFaCi+H18DS4pD8XmQT5zrHr62D/8vcU2Kx56JotfJnyZva2PaeGn+xOs+PNYzbVE ECkeHC9hbPWqmmeZ25VrgYCQBl+9YoWgEiGIRRV5y5PwDhfVdMZcKStibXTiB+9LZ436Vw0Oq+Y/7 gXcLrtvez3j13A==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2084 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCLCJ-0002tE-9x; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:45:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <878rv4htza.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:37:13 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:225174 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: spacibba@aol.com, 53452@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:37:13 +0100 > > >>>>> On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:29:56 +0200, Eli Zaretskii said: > > >> From: Robert Pluim > >> So either we fix the behaviour, or the documentation. Would it be that > >> hard to restrict this to something like [a-z] or !function key? Or we > >> could always add yet-another-user-option. > > Eli> My point was that the behavior is probably okay, and the documentation > Eli> should be amended if it could confuse. > > Itʼs only ok if weʼre ok with shift-selection being broken by it. Are > we? Like I said: I don't see how shift-selection could NOT be broken by disabling shift-translation, because it DEPENDS on it.