From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53896: 28.0.91; Icomplete Vertical Mode fails to preview "C-x 8 RET 8072" Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:13:05 +0200 Message-ID: <83h794sgla.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83o83gumxa.fsf@gnu.org> <878rujz5h1.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4514"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53896@debbugs.gnu.org To: Van Ly Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 12 08:14:47 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nImcI-0000xY-C2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 08:14:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55258 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nImcG-0002Lq-Og for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 02:14:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nImbo-0002LR-06 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 02:14:16 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39359) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nImbZ-0005nN-Mq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 02:14:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nImbZ-0001h2-Jl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 02:14:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 07:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53896 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 53896-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53896.16446500046457 (code B ref 53896); Sat, 12 Feb 2022 07:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53896) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2022 07:13:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33256 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nImax-0001g5-Qg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 02:13:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38340) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nImas-0001fm-QK for 53896@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 02:13:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=58790 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nIman-0005kA-J9; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 02:13:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=JyzwW3Hj++6f694+2cI6hB1bKwfA7+YVNyahqy+WOxQ=; b=fLOnBJqoi8v2DLKYo4q7 oMEpLIakuYcVhFrerJJKh8A4qN2826su4PsCFfij7j3HkzA4qZRKroVSUUTQ0NDEKB6fCcP/0DKFw 2osKd3Tcdjx3iNP8zd+FtnS3CbKfWJdiCuKGukF4WKTA/vPj5JS0aRtc8LmCEHfTs7VE0um6Yx54N tRvfj2WECOU69N4yObAG9bxO28DHjJf9A7uN9PSoMAXTDCAsggh3dZXSR4tCmSZi1kwO8fihVu1uj 0Zmn2CLTWD79SJLxVmpW9W+b87ZYK8IDVeUhTpD+PSnLJq4juAu6fZfxPAijFamunOoGdxwM99y3g 7IPa4RhJgRKlZg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4405 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nImam-0002fs-JC; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 02:13:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Van Ly on Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:11:13 +0000 (UTC)) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:226695 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:11:13 +0000 (UTC) > From: Van Ly > cc: Eli Zaretskii , 53896@debbugs.gnu.org > > > The CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-XXXX names are utterly meaningless to any > > speaker of an East Asian language that uses them. > > LINEAR A SIGN A807 ; from C-x 8 RET 807 > > The above is utterly meaningless to me but maybe it is meaningful to > the community studying Linear A. Yes. More importantly, there are 341 of them, as opposed to almost 27,000 of CJK Ideographs. Even UnicodeData.txt doesn't include them, but gives only the first and the last codepoints (one more evidence that they don't have meaningful names in Unicode DB). > My use case sources the CJK to read from, for example > > => https://ctext.org/er-ya/shi-gu > => https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php Sorry, I don't understand the relevance. Do you see any names in those URLs, and if so, are those names in any way derived from the Unicode character DB? I just see characters, and thus typing their codepoints is the way to go. The characters _are_ supported, and we do assign names to them (which are trivially derived from their codepoints), so typing their names is just an unnecessarily complicated way of typing their codepoint. IOW, why not just type 8072 at "C-x 8 RET"s prompt, instead of selecting "CJK IDEOGRAPH-8072" from a list of 27,000 candidates? > ; from C-x 8 RET a > > The current name for "" had the old name "LINE FEED (LF)". I don't think I see the relevance. The 'old-name' property comes from the Unicode DB, and we include the old names in the completion candidates of "C-x 8 RET". But the characters that have a meaningful old name have none of the problems the CJK Ideographs have.