From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55862: Removing indent-tabs-mode set to t by default Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 08:38:08 +0300 Message-ID: <83h74u4csf.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17412"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 55862@debbugs.gnu.org To: goncholden Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 09 07:55:06 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzB8M-0004M7-4R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 07:55:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34864 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzB8K-0002G6-QW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 01:55:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33736) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzAss-0005pr-NQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 01:39:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:50811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzAso-0007ZT-7u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 01:39:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzAso-00007Q-0x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 01:39:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 05:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55862 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 55862-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55862.1654753098397 (code B ref 55862); Thu, 09 Jun 2022 05:39:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55862) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jun 2022 05:38:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44708 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzAs6-00006L-Mf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 01:38:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48728) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzAs5-000064-0o for 55862@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 01:38:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzArz-0007Sm-O8; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 01:38:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=hZSvX11BfI5D6+BNIKcNW6TGvWWWzJgyR1WWZDHiOuY=; b=HV4JCO+cCB2V 7pM8fiIIcbGvV58s5Q7DFqkxadV64Gt7D1URcKDtv5ukRI0OEzZANePGadJ2QqqdpNz5qnV7uQ+Xg cxvuchbhMlRSIa5u37NZEHTZLhoI6xqAL6CksNGAL0w113cjU+2F1hOt+XUnEEbhIdK3lPr3wmIeJ Zr/uBTId1cAnbXwh20an/KpBYZqBc4jyzKKLzDA7XDmSKklSbsXrBWKnUwLjU1X8V4VD701uIkPsP Tp9c/We/W7Z9XcDqLdyXvQr5F81XyMakHubPJYbDnP/pSbcO0t0l9Qx43uvLY6DSFNF/RkRcuSzrG KJj05id2XlNjeArOI31oEA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1891 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzArz-0004rP-5O; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 01:38:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:234010 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 03:19:01 +0000 > From: goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > Why is `indent-tabs-mode' t by default? Tabs should not be used. That depends on the major mode. E.g., in text mode and its derivatives this is turned off. But in programming modes, many languages accept TABs, so using them is not a bad idea, especially since this is a long-standing Emacs default. > I have been modifying bash scripts and the introduced tabs are driving me insane. Maybe shell-mode should change its defaults, then. I don't use that too much, so I don't have an opinion. Of course, arguing about defaults is many times futile, since changing them is very easy.