From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 10:32:22 +0200 Message-ID: <83h6xd70mh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@gmail.com> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11647"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 60220@debbugs.gnu.org To: Aaron Jensen , Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 09:33:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pBApM-0002pI-Jo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:33:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAp6-0002xW-Rn; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:33:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAp4-0002vB-0c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:33:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAp3-00032n-Or for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:33:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAp3-00005e-Kh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:33:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 08:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60220 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 60220-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60220.1672389166318 (code B ref 60220); Fri, 30 Dec 2022 08:33:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2022 08:32:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33518 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAoo-000053-5b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:32:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57700) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAom-0008WS-PB for 60220@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:32:45 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAoh-000305-HX; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:32:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ETvVu5QzzBbfhvx0TVGF3Ca+0a3pofCzZo4VnvAURPw=; b=ThY6XNAmyHBU 8aS1BJbuE1hypdtClYeUQCpO/1Z1iuPsJEkB+eo7TGpKBObLrSODkd3u1Ke7dFbZGcLY76up4bwij p+zlIJU3y4jMoAL+IBt/UhOU17ErIA1ujqAtr2gCex+AKC4MkUmn147FWkinFa5KvNaY2aN0b3ozK 5IiW7YczZJ0R6uWfZTcCDSsBuay+wXwfFCUGaG2JsGOFfHB30ytSFMME3VkNHz0RnDmahRX2BE021 M0V0mvYL4538+kUGZWL1xkp0qooswh1HRCpIW2XcK/zXmkDCQoE9Cux5HR1h9uXppWX3gIPAbvSrQ 8lG0G8VQTfEc9ULVy8J3Jw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBAoS-0007J1-Pg; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 03:32:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Aaron Jensen on Thu, 29 Dec 2022 19:03:47 -0500) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:252101 Archived-At: > From: Aaron Jensen > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 19:03:47 -0500 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, 60220@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Could it by that the dynamic linker is being invoked recursively? That > > > is, while something is being dynamically linked, a SIGALRM or equivalent > > > arrives, some idle timer code is run, and the dynamic linker is invoked > > > before the outer linker finishes? I imagine that might put some dynamic > > > linkers into a tizzy. > > > > > > I have no idea, would we see that in the trace at all? Here are two > > more crashes: https://gist.github.com/aaronjensen/f7c46857ea93c858f46a639d8880f290 > > > > I have been able to reproduce it just now pretty easily, but I still > > can't reproduce it with the debugger attached. > > Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If > that's a workable thing and you can send me a patch I can try it out. Andrea, can you suggest a patch along these lines for Aaron to try? Thanks.