From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61496: 30.0.50; Default value of icon-title-format Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:09:15 +0200 Message-ID: <83h6vl35c4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zg9hqflv.fsf@telefonica.net> <83fsb8e8yr.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt5gqshv.fsf@telefonica.net> <83v8k4cp2z.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1p0tj05.fsf@yahoo.com> <83mt5gcnqb.fsf@gnu.org> <87bklwqoq6.fsf@telefonica.net> <83edqscfzh.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7pto9zb.fsf@bernoul.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17053"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 61496@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jonas Bernoulli Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 16 18:10:23 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pShm2-0004GP-2f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2023 18:10:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pShlk-0006Cl-Bv; Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:10:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pShli-0006C5-RB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pShli-0007Kb-Hs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pShli-0001Rz-3H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:10:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 17:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61496 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61496-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61496.16765673685515 (code B ref 61496); Thu, 16 Feb 2023 17:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61496) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2023 17:09:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37557 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pShlA-0001Qt-At for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:09:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35216) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pShl7-0001Qb-D0 for 61496@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:09:27 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pShl1-0005eL-Pg; Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:09:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=EEruXFglScMjYhUZhMb/PrqL2yueDZe5zyZitO02vdI=; b=TfeFwQcfqhwEDwOu1jF2 z7ILbnmfgQJaKQHM1ysCjwqY9yLbC28W8XOdE/eNus9FxMrfXXoHx3Ve/2grrN50ggtCoPFnb+88c +oMEMEOx73d72uJw+aHTK9lvqNtRNroIUQrOiMaxEMbirQsCDwBF0X8VxLYO4tHVP3L5OXLi6kb4N JPBP10OodNLhqyooBtiMvnvUiY7Ku56HW0vEJbgtIbIYY2+bH5gRRNJLH2vSbaEl+LLsoQ8IgZGSS HgyBp/I4QKsotY8CqRVbALRnGfNzGlVRCgkmFllEJhO4D42Dljs8liroI8H9uFmqZzVp/PC1hDiAr rZftVWEuSItIzg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pShl0-0006Ad-Uo; Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:09:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87o7pto9zb.fsf@bernoul.li> (message from Jonas Bernoulli on Thu, 16 Feb 2023 17:23:20 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255827 Archived-At: [Forwarding message by Jonas to the bug tracker] > From: Jonas Bernoulli > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 17:23:20 +0100 > > A day after this discussion began, I opened a duplicate of sorts > (bug#61538). Eli asked me to express my opinion here. > > I was inclined to agree with Óscar after reading this discussion, but > after experimenting a bit, I am not so sure anymore. > > 1. I have not actually experienced a regression. I was happy to use the > default values for icon- and frame-title-format for a long time (I > used the uniquify package to display a bit more information than just > the nondirectory part of the filename). It is a coincidence that I > just now decided that I want to instead use the absolute filename as > the frame title but continue to display some abbreviation in the > mode-line. > > 2. Apparently icon-frame-title was broken since 24.x. Reading this > thread I assumed that means that variable was just ignored. But I > just experimented with these variables in 28.2 and they both appear > to behave as documented. > > Before I can really form an opinion on whether the default should > be changed in 29.1 or 30.1, I need you to tell me how the behavior > changed from 28.2 to 29.0.60. > > I think the default for icon-frame-title should be "the same as for > frames that are not iconified" and that should be expressed using t as > the value. As far as I currently understand it, that would be a change > in behavior. >